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Got 6"-8" of that white stuff in Hobart yesterday. Was 8 degrees with sun on thermometer when I got up this morning. V Day is the usual end of good ice around here. But back in the 90's I remember jumping over open water along shore onto 6"-8" of good ice the first of March. Cycle, it's all a cycle, INMO. If your lucky enough to live long enough you'll get to see it, said the old man!!! Teach