was out at Mulhurast bay last weekend ice was rhe same 5 or so inches of good ice and about 12 too 14 inches of crappy frozen slush,, surface is hard and fun too walk on if you dont have cleats ,, wouldnt even think about driving on then dont know about now with this cold snap prolly a tad better.. as for fish well Im not gona talk about my pigeon lake record this year...