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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: piersm2 on Sep 07, 2018, 08:53 AM
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I am thinking about doing some upgrading and would like people's opinion. I am currently driving a car as I used to travel a lot for work, but now I use it as a commuter car. My wife has an Acadia that we use 95% of the time, and considering we just had our second child, it is time to upgrade to something that is larger. I have been thinking about getting a truck or an SUV (thinking a dodge durango), but not sure yet. With 2 car seats, I need a bigger back seat. The big reason I am leaning towards a truck is how large the rear seats have gotten lately, and for the fact I can throw my shanty in the back and drive out on the ice.
The 4runner TRD Pro also looks like the anglers dream, but its not very large and I would have to shell out some coin for it.
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The cost of trucks has gotten out of control for starters but if you can afford it, I can't see any other way on going with a truck. I upgraded my '08 silverado to a '15 silverado last friday after looking for 6 months here in MN. There are deals to be had but it took a while for the right one to come along, that was in MN at least. Everything that I found that I liked was below the salt line. I went from crew cab to crew cab and it does seem like the new trucks cab is much bigger then my older crew cab, plenty of space for kids and other things. Serving dual purpose, I have never once someone say I need less space in a vehicle at least from someone who owns a truck. More options you have for storage and space, the easier and more enjoyable your time on the ice and with the family will be in the vehicle. Just my 2 cents....happy truck hunting!
To add, I went 217,000 on the '08 without any issue. Normal wear and tear stuff. Impressed, hopefully the 2015 lives up to my last experience with Chevy.
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Every vehicle I buy from now on will be a Toyota or a Honda. I have a Tundra and love it. My wife has a Honda and loves it. Neither of us has had a problem with it. Both 2010's. They are so reliable compared to other brands of vehicles I've had.
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GM and Ford are having huge sales on 2018's right now, roughly 11000.00 off of msrp. I received a similar deal on a 17 GMC 1500 a year and a half ago. Although I do agree other than full size trucks Honda and Toyota are the way to go, very reliable. Personally I wouldnt buy another dodge. chrystler, or jeep ever again. Good luck, I hate dealing with the salesman.
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Every vehicle I buy from now on will be a Toyota or a Honda. I have a Tundra and love it. My wife has a Honda and loves it. Neither of us has had a problem with it. Both 2010's. They are so reliable compared to other brands of vehicles I've had.
Tacoma here :thumbsup:
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GM and Ford are having huge sales on 2018's right now, roughly 11000.00 off of msrp. I received a similar deal on a 17 GMC 1500 a year and a half ago. Although I do agree other than full size trucks Honda and Toyota are the way to go, very reliable. Personally I wouldnt buy another dodge. chrystler, or jeep ever again. Good luck, I hate dealing with the salesman.
Yep trucks are cheap the rebates are crazy......because the farm economy is terrible. So you take the entire Midwest agriculture market out of the picture on buying new trucks. I wanted to buy my wife a loaded truck, but she wanted an SUV. Ended up getting a 2018 Ford Expedition. Like the vehicle and got a good deal on it.
What blows me away is just how terrible some people are at negotiations with sales people. Maybe it's because I'm in sales and understand the process.........but there are a lot of dumb people that get screwed buying cars. I'm talking thousands of dollars screwed. My wife hates me when I deal on a car, because she hates conflict. However, She's smiles when it's done.
Here are some simple tips.
Blue book is blue book value. If your honest about the condition of the car, then that's what it is worth. Don't take one cent less. If he tries to give u less.....don't take it.
Any car over $40k u should be able to take 10% off sticker. No if ands or buts. Lower then 40k priced cars will be less % off sticker.
Rebates are your money not the dealers. Rebates come off after the % off of sticker price.
If you need to finance be careful. This can be a big trap. Dealers will tell u that they can only get you x% financing from the company. So.......when you should have something like 2.9% financing they will try to stick it to you and give you something like 5.6%. So when you get that smoking hot deal.......they tack it onto the backside in interest payments to get you to the price they want.
If you just "finance" to get a rebate.....never listen to the BS of oh wait 4months or so to pay it off blad bla bla.....get the rebate and pay it off on the first day you can.
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GM need to be careful with their incentives.
To qualify for them you need to go with their financing.
And have to pay the sticker price.
Check the details and see if you have your own financing the price is more negotiable.
I worked in the auto business for years.
Another thing is when they are
"CHECKING WITH THE MANAGER "
Be careful what you say because they are listening to you.
Your wife might say "well we can afford $$ this amount a month"
Best way to purchase a new vehicle is through internet or phone.
Even if it takes weeks to deal with the idiots is worth it.
You can save $$thousands.
Its all a big show to get your money. Most people dont realize that.
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Don't buy new vehicles... a couple of years old...pay cash...save thousands...problem solved.
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I am thinking about doing some upgrading and would like people's opinion. I am currently driving a car as I used to travel a lot for work, but now I use it as a commuter car. My wife has an Acadia that we use 95% of the time, and considering we just had our second child, it is time to upgrade to something that is larger. I have been thinking about getting a truck or an SUV (thinking a dodge durango), but not sure yet. With 2 car seats, I need a bigger back seat. The big reason I am leaning towards a truck is how large the rear seats have gotten lately, and for the fact I can throw my shanty in the back and drive out on the ice.
The 4runner TRD Pro also looks like the anglers dream, but its not very large and I would have to shell out some coin for it.
Wrong forum.
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Wrong forum.
Not at all. The first priority in purchasing a vehicle is to make sure all of our gear will fit! :tipup:
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A vehicle is a major portion of an ice fishing setup. Interesting thread in my opinion.
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A vehicle is a major portion of an ice fishing setup. Interesting thread in my opinion.
Yes sir...upgraded from a 2-wheel drive Ranger to a 4-wheel drive Tacoma for that reason. Now we need to see some mods that have been done to the vehicles to accommodate our fishing gear. ;D
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Don't buy new vehicles... a couple of years old...pay cash...save thousands...problem solved.
I got the wife's escape used. But I won't buy my next truck used. I don't want some jackwagon's half beat truck because they drove it for 2 years and didn't take care of it. I want the thing for 20 years.
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A vehicle is a major portion of an ice fishing setup. Interesting thread in my opinion.
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A vehicle is a major portion of an ice fishing setup. Interesting thread in my opinion.
I also upgraded my vehicle for the purpose of fitting my flip-over shelter. But being narrow-minded, as I am, I never thought of asking any ice fisherman what to buy.
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4runner ;D
You can buy a used one and be confident you can go 300,000 miles
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It’s like anything else, if you take care of it, a truck will last no matter what kind it is. I agree a new vehicle, or at least a one-owner used model still under warranty is the way to go. All vehicles have their good and bad points, and recalls seem to be the norm. I prefer Chrysler products, and have been very happy with their performance. That’s just my opinion. I’m sure this is true for other manufacturers, and when you come right down to it, it’s a matter of personal preference. It also comes down to what you can comfortably afford.
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I got the wife's escape used. But I won't buy my next truck used. I don't want some jackwagon's half beat truck because they drove it for 2 years and didn't take care of it. I want the thing for 20 years.
Not always true...bought my '96 Ranger in 2000 with 32,000 mi. on it. Just traded it in April with 325,000 miles and still going strong...well strong for it's age. Never any major repairs and wasn't burning a lick of oil. Best "used truck" I ever bought.
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Not always true...bought my '96 Ranger in 2000 with 32,000 mi. on it. Just traded it in April with 325,000 miles and still going strong...well strong for it's age. Never any major repairs and wasn't burning a lick of oil. Best "used truck" I ever bought.
My current truck went 278k and it failed with a hole in the piston. But it has spent alot of its life with a trailer behind it. I got it with 61k on it used and thought the engine blow by it had was normal until I replaced the engine. This one runs so much better and stronger.
I'll take as much of factory warranty I can on my next diesel.
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My current truck went 278k and it failed with a hole in the piston. But it has spent alot of its life with a trailer behind it. I got it with 61k on it used and thought the engine blow by it had was normal until I replaced the engine. This one runs so much better and stronger.
I'll take as much of factory warranty I can on my next diesel.
Yup...warranty is important. Got the extended on my '15 Tacoma. Good insurance in my opinion, especially on a used because you never know. As for ice fishing upgrade, I don't have to worry as much about getting stuck with the 4WD. :thumbsup:
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Subaru ascent
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My current truck went 278k and it failed with a hole in the piston. But it has spent alot of its life with a trailer behind it. I got it with 61k on it used and thought the engine blow by it had was normal until I replaced the engine. This one runs so much better and stronger.
I'll take as much of factory warranty I can on my next diesel.
Must be a durajoke.
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Every vehicle I buy from now on will be a Toyota or a Honda. I have a Tundra and love it. My wife has a Honda and loves it. Neither of us has had a problem with it. Both 2010's. They are so reliable compared to other brands of vehicles I've had.
I said that too after 3/4 of a million miles in 3 different Tacomas, all bought brand new. They are simply awesome but just absolutely suck as a tow vehicle. When I got my 19' inline enclosed trailer I had no choice but to go full size and the Tundra is just way too expensive and I didn't like the mileage it got. Almost cried when I traded my '13 Tacoma TRD Off Road for my '17 GMC Sierra 1500 but so far I've been pleasantly surprised.
If you don't have to tow, I highly suggest a Taco, but if you need to haul get a full size. My Sierra double cab has plenty of space in the back for kiddos and gear and still has a 6' bed without being stupid long.
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My '17 Silverado double cab is getting better gas mileage than my buddies '17 Taco. The Chevy 5.3 liter kicks down to 4 cylinders when it can, to save fuel. Plus it tows way better, and more room. I'm pleasantly surprised with this truck.
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I said that too after 3/4 of a million miles in 3 different Tacomas, all bought brand new. They are simply awesome but just absolutely suck as a tow vehicle. When I got my 19' inline enclosed trailer I had no choice but to go full size and the Tundra is just way too expensive and I didn't like the mileage it got. Almost cried when I traded my '13 Tacoma TRD Off Road for my '17 GMC Sierra 1500 but so far I've been pleasantly surprised.
If you don't have to tow, I highly suggest a Taco, but if you need to haul get a full size. My Sierra double cab has plenty of space in the back for kiddos and gear and still has a 6' bed without being stupid long.
Yup, love my Taco...and you're right...not for towing heavy weights. In fact, I hauled a half ton of stone the other day. While it did well going down the road ( no loss of power ) it was all the suspension could handle. But I do like it's smooth ride. Not so much truck like. I bought it primarily for the 4X4 in winter...getting back to my favorite fishing hole. ;)
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From a mechanic stand point Honda and some ford motors along with some chevy motors have issues.. I have not seen many toyota problems less people around detroit buy them.. I know there is big problems with the 5 cylinder that was in the Colorado canyon chevy products.. blowing head gaskets but the four cylinder was fine.. also know the ford 5.4L. In yhe 3 valve motor Had the problem of leaving a swaged end on the spark plug in the motor.. when changing the plugs. Only real fix was doing the head gasket and head at that point.. also Honda has had problems with there transmissions on some of the trucks I think the ridgelinewas the big problem with transmissions.. same with heavy towing on the 5.4L ford we had our torque converter replaced on ours.. not hearing many problems with the silverado.. dodge I am hearing goes threw tires every 12,000 miles in the ram 1500 trucks.. as for the new ford ranger still to new right now to coment on.. the ecoboost ford were really well made too.. but just take this with a grain of salt cause its just advise to make it so your mechanic don't make as much..
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A few pieces of advice I'd give is if you're buying a used vehicle make sure it's certified, the warranty that comes with certified vehicles is a good piece of mind, and make sure you understand what the certification warranty covers. Even if it's a certified vehicle I'd invest in an extended warranty for the added peace of mind. Also look for a vehicle on www.Carguru.com, this site gives you lots of info such as how long it's been for sale, number of owners, and if there's been any changes in price. When I was buying my truck I checked it out on Carguru and found out they jacked up the price by $1,000 the week before so when I was talking with the salesman about buying it he gave me the jacked up price and I told him I'm only paying the cheaper price, I saw it on Carguru, and showed it to him. He pulled the I have to talk with the manager and when he came back he said they can't find it so I pulled it up on my phone and showed the both of them again and I ended up starting off at the cheaper price. I'm sure they weren't happy with me about it but tough crap, my money is better in my pocket than their's.
I've had a 2004 extended cab, 2008 extended cab, and now a 2014 super crew cab (four full sized doors)Ford F150 and liked them all no major problems but I stay on top of the maintenance. As other people said before it's better to go bigger rather than smaller especially if you have kids. My extended cab trucks worked great for me until the kids started getting bigger and they started complaining about not having enough room. If I bought a super crew cab when I bought my 2008 I wouldn't have ended up buying the 2014. Oh and there's one other thing about buying a truck, when you never had one you don't realize what you're missing but once you have one you'll ask yourself how you ever managed without one and will NEVER want to be without one.
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A few pieces of advice I'd give is if you're buying a used vehicle make sure it's certified, the warranty that comes with certified vehicles is a good piece of mind, and make sure you understand what the certification warranty covers. Even if it's a certified vehicle I'd invest in an extended warranty for the added peace of mind. Also look for a vehicle on www.Carguru.com, this site gives you lots of info such as how long it's been for sale, number of owners, and if there's been any changes in price. When I was buying my truck I checked it out on Carguru and found out they jacked up the price by $1,000 the week before so when I was talking with the salesman about buying it he gave me the jacked up price and I told him I'm only paying the cheaper price, I saw it on Carguru, and showed it to him. He pulled the I have to talk with the manager and when he came back he said they can't find it so I pulled it up on my phone and showed the both of them again and I ended up starting off at the cheaper price. I'm sure they weren't happy with me about it but tough crap, my money is better in my pocket than their's.
I've had a 2004 extended cab, 2008 extended cab, and now a 2014 super crew cab (four full sized doors)Ford F150 and liked them all no major problems but I stay on top of the maintenance. As other people said before it's better to go bigger rather than smaller especially if you have kids. My extended cab trucks worked great for me until the kids started getting bigger and they started complaining about not having enough room. If I bought a super crew cab when I bought my 2008 I wouldn't have ended up buying the 2014. Oh and there's one other thing about buying a truck, when you never had one you don't realize what you're missing but once you have one you'll ask yourself how you ever managed without one and will NEVER want to be without one.
Exactly what I did...good words of advice.
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I’m surprised there are so many Taco lovers here, especially up north. Google frame rust recall from the cheap multi piece frame. Poor transmission programming along with torque converter shudder issues. Poor ride, noisey cabin, incurable vibing front end. But the engine is good.
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I’m surprised there are so many Taco lovers here, especially up north. Google frame rust recall from the cheap multi piece frame. Poor transmission programming along with torque converter shudder issues. Poor ride, noisey cabin, incurable vibing front end. But the engine is good.
you nailed some issues with my Nissan Frontier.lol.torque converter shudder if you dont change transmission fluid every few years.noisey cabin and theres barely any rust on the truck itself but the bumper rotted off.good engine tho and pretty tough 4x4.
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I got the wife's escape used. But I won't buy my next truck used. I don't want some jackwagon's half beat truck because they drove it for 2 years and didn't take care of it. I want the thing for 20 years.
That's why you buy Certified Used and/or from a dealer with a truck that has warranty left. Nothing wrong with 2 year old used, if the truck has service records and a clean Car Fax.
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Every vehicle I buy from now on will be a Toyota or a Honda. I have a Tundra and love it. My wife has a Honda and loves it. Neither of us has had a problem with it. Both 2010's. They are so reliable compared to other brands of vehicles I've had.
I'm real happy with my '17 Honda Ridgeline, even though most don't call it a real truck. I don't tow anything, so that is not the concern. The 'under the bed' locking trunk is fabulous.
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I’m surprised there are so many Taco lovers here, especially up north. Google frame rust recall from the cheap multi piece frame. Poor transmission programming along with torque converter shudder issues. Poor ride, noisey cabin, incurable vibing front end. But the engine is good.
That frame deal wasnt even a recall it was an example of the commitment to their customers. It covered trucks from 1995 to 2000. At it was a very small number of trucks that were even reported. Toyota received reports that on a small number of Tacoma frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure.
All Toyota did was extend the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation. If the truck met the criteria Toyota gave you 150% value of truck. It is proof about Toyota that nobody stands behind their product like they do. The big 3 would have been out of business years ago it they offered this type of commitment.
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I’m surprised there are so many Taco lovers here, especially up north. Google frame rust recall from the cheap multi piece frame. Poor transmission programming along with torque converter shudder issues. Poor ride, noisey cabin, incurable vibing front end. But the engine is good.
No problems with my '15 Taco with 45,000 miles...nice ride, no noise in cabin, no front end shake. I have heard a few cons about the frame but nothing so far. As for rust, I am adamant about keeping it clean year round so don't foresee any issues. As they say, you take care of it...it will take care of you. Just like my '96 Ranger with 325,000 miles at time of trade in...on my Taco. ;D
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I’m surprised there are so many Taco lovers here, especially up north. Google frame rust recall from the cheap multi piece frame. Poor transmission programming along with torque converter shudder issues. Poor ride, noisey cabin, incurable vibing front end. But the engine is good.
Not a taco lover my self but giving a word of advise just cause it has those issues don't mean it's a bad car or truck.. seen newer fords like the 08 f150 with rusted out frames and cracked frames.. same with chevy's and gmc's.. ford ranger was natorious for this they even sell whole frames for them.. but how many tacos will last 350,000 miles ?? I sold my 94 ranger with 296,890 miles to a fried for free he gave me $100 cause He knows scrap price was at least that.. drove till around 350,000 miles be for the Trans puked and sold it for scrap at that point.. it owed me or him nothing.. any how cars trucks are only meant to go a to b if it gets to c your lucky truthfully.. just be glad it's not a saturn vue or a pontiac azetc bad transmission are commin in those! Very common .. that why I never buy the first 2 to 3 model years cause it gives time to figure out if their major problems ..
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Do people really buy the extended warranties, fabric spray, and the under coatings on vehicles........IMO it's the biggest B.S. Add ons you can get. I had a 2012 durrango I bought new drove it to 110,000 had under $1,500 easy in repairs over a total of 6years. The extended warranty was way higher then that. Not to mention the factory warranty covers it for quite a few miles.
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Do people really buy the extended warranties, fabric spray, and the under coatings on vehicles........IMO it's the biggest B.S. Add ons you can get. I had a 2012 durrango I bought new drove it to 110,000 had under $1,500 easy in repairs over a total of 6years. The extended warranty was way higher then that. Not to mention the factory warranty covers it for quite a few miles.
Ya they seen you comeing when you buy the extended warranties..
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I absolutely buy extended warranties and undercoat my vehicles, I'd rather pay a little more for the warranty and not need it than get a big bill that might put me broke. In my opinion the longer the warranty the better even if it only covers the power train. Here in Pennsylvania, AKA the salt state, they put more salt on the roads in a year than lots of other states do in three or four. Then a few years ago they got the brilliant idea of putting brime, a liquid solution of salt and God only knows what which most of us call liquid rust, on the roads. They put so much of that stuff on the roads that it's turn a black vehicle almost totally white. So yeah I wash the under carriage as often as I can and undercoat the vehicles.
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I absolutely buy extended warranties and undercoat my vehicles, I'd rather pay a little more for the warranty and not need it than get a big bill that might put me broke. In my opinion the longer the warranty the better even if it only covers the power train. Here in Pennsylvania, AKA the salt state, they put more salt on the roads in a year than lots of other states do in three or four. Then a few years ago they got the brilliant idea of putting brime, a liquid solution of salt and God only knows what which most of us call liquid rust, on the roads. They put so much of that stuff on the roads that it's turn a black vehicle almost totally white. So yeah I wash the under carriage as often as I can and undercoat the vehicles.
Your salt on the roads is no different then in NW Iowa. I'm just curious what kind of repair bill would cause a person to go broke?
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I to under coat but the extended warraty I don't.. the thing as cars get newer they can't do the rust proofing.. my 94 ranger was rust proofed lasted to abut two years before I got rid of it.. basically wax and gerase mixture the rust proofing from zebart.. problem was we would get it in out carpet on our clothes etc mostly when you don't want it to... but the finish would last 20 year or more.. but problem in newers car they don't have the pockets the older cars had to fill rust proofing in to .. this we were told at dealer on a 2013 escape if we were to rust proof it we would have to drill holes!! and then it would rust out even faster then if we did not.. looking at used cars and seen a few cars lately that had the rust proofing done.. and the rockers are pure rust and flaking.. just a heads up why they say not to!! When your told not to maybe you should have listenedmost of all on newer cats trucks and suv's ..
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Extended warranties? Absolutely. All the other add-ons? ( rustproofing,etc.). Nope. Just keep vehicle clean including under carriage and a good paste wax a few times a year. Keeping it out of the sun as much as possible too. Neglect of a vehicle is the #1 reason of it's demise...frame, body and engine. How do I know these things? Because I've seen these things...I work in a body shop 😉
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Extended warranty imo is a no go. Why not put 100 a month in a savings account each month. After 3 yrs or so when your original warranty ends you will have plenty to fix a major breakdown. Keep putting 100 away and before you know it you will have money towards your next rig. Biggest reason people buy the extended warranty is because they can finance it and stretch it out over 5 yrs etc. if u buy a vehicle that has been taken care of warranty is not worth the money. There’s a reason dealers push it on people. Good luck collecting on warranty work half the time. My .02
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Your salt on the roads is no different then in NW Iowa. I'm just curious what kind of repair bill would cause a person to go broke?
I used go broke as a figure of speech for a large repair bill such as needing a new motor, transmission, or having a major breakdown which are big bills for people who don't have a lot of extra money laying around. I always bought the extended warranty from the manufacturer not some other warranty company. In my experiences with Ford's extended warranty I haven't had any problems having things covered and got the added bonus of getting a loaner car because I had their extended warranty. I agree with the others that I wouldn't buy any warranties from some warranty company.
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That frame deal wasnt even a recall it was an example of the commitment to their customers. It covered trucks from 1995 to 2000. At it was a very small number of trucks that were even reported. Toyota received reports that on a small number of Tacoma frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure.
All Toyota did was extend the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation. If the truck met the criteria Toyota gave you 150% value of truck. It is proof about Toyota that nobody stands behind their product like they do. The big 3 would have been out of business years ago it they offered this type of commitment.
It goes farther than 2000, my 2006 is involved in the issue. I not saying it has been a bad little truck, but far from great. The worst truck I’ve ever owned was a new 1992 F150, have not considered another Ford product since.
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I used go broke as a figure of speech for a large repair bill such as needing a new motor, transmission, or having a major breakdown which are big bills for people who don't have a lot of extra money laying around. I always bought the extended warranty from the manufacturer not some other warranty company. In my experiences with Ford's extended warranty I haven't had any problems having things covered and got the added bonus of getting a loaner car because I had their extended warranty. I agree with the others that I wouldn't buy any warranties from some warranty company.
For what an extended warranty cost you can do a major repair..........
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I have to disagree with you on that especially if you're having a dealership do the work. The price I paid for the extended warranty was definitely less than a motor or trans job.
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For what an extended warranty cost you can do a major repair..........
A. Glass., please give us , in a dollar amount , your thoughts on the cost of a major repair.
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Regardless of the repair cost most would rather add the few bucks a payment and pay more in the end than drop a chunk of cash if they need to make a major repair.
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just got a quote from 2 dealers for a new 2018 Tacoma 31500 and 32,000
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I have to disagree with you on that especially if you're having a dealership do the work. The price I paid for the extended warranty was definitely less than a motor or trans job.
Wow u must get screwed for a motor or trams job.
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For what an extended warranty cost you can do a major repair..........
I'd much rather pay $1800 for the extended warranty (1/12,000 on top of the 5/60,000 bumper to bumper which also includes towing to any dealership and rental car) than the $4200 I would have paid in finance charges had I not paid cash for the vehicle...then add in the cost of repairs and rental fee w/o warranty. And the amount of driving I do, will amount to only half the miles accumulated during that 6 year period...that is true savings and peace of mind. Purchasing a vehicle is one of the worst investments there is...but a necessary one. So the more money I can save over the long haul, the better.
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Maintenance makes a big difference like a lot of people have pointed out here.
But with all the electrical and computer stuff that can go wrong theres nothing you can do to prevent that.
Most of those parts are dealer only supplied.
Up here the most important thing that we have to do is keep the rig clean.
They pound the roads with salt.
Remember nothing is built to last.
New trucks have gotten out of control in price.
My truck is 5 years old with 60,000 miles dont plan on buying another new one for another 5 years.
I tow big things so I need a 3/4 ton diesel and those are insane now in price.
I just run a little SUV to keep the miles of it and try to keep it out of the salt.
Theyre all good, some better than others.
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I have to disagree with you on that especially if you're having a dealership do the work. The price I paid for the extended warranty was definitely less than a motor or trans job.
Here in NW Iowa automotive expenses are not as much as in much of the country and Sheldon has always been a “low” place to live.
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Regardless of the repair cost most would rather add the few bucks a payment and pay more in the end than drop a chunk of cash if they need to make a major repair.
I agree with you completely.
Wow u must get screwed for a motor or trams job.
I don't know what dealers in your area charge but here the average price of labor at any of the dealers is $80.00 PER HOUR and that's for a gas engine, labor for working on a diesel engine is even more than that. Also those prices don't include parts. Sure you don't have to have a dealer do the work but with all the electronics in vehicles these days I'd rather go to the dealer because they work on that brand day in and out and have direct factory support. Don't get me wrong there's some good independent garages around but there's also a lot of grease monkeys who think they're a mechanic just because they have greasy hands and clothes and a few wrenches.
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I hate shopping vehicles. :P