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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: Agronomist_at_IA on Dec 03, 2022, 11:40 PM
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Refilled my crate today. Haven’t seen prices on 1# tanks lately. I know last season they were $5.99-$10 for a new 1#.
What’s 1# tanks priced at in your area?
just a tip but to keep the green bomb threads in shape, I put a touch of Remington gun oil on the threads and a thread cap on them. Keeps the threads from rusting.
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6-8 bucks a pop around here.
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6-8 bucks a pop around here.
Same around here , glad I refill
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I switched to alcohol heat several years back... no regrets. It doesn't bother my eyes the way propane or white gas do. Both of those make my eyes feel itchy/fuzzy after a while.
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I switched to alcohol heat several years back... no regrets. It doesn't bother my eyes the way propane or white gas do. Both of those make my eyes feel itchy/fuzzy after a while.
So how do you heat with alcohol
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Walmart 4.50 each if you got the 4 pack.
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Not sure around here for the price of the bombs, but less than 6 bucks to fill my 5 pounder.
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Refilled my crate today. Haven’t seen prices on 1# tanks lately. I know last season they were $5.99-$10 for a new.
1#.
What’s 1# tanks priced at in your area?
just a tip but to keep the green bomb threads in shape, I put a touch of Remington gun oil on the threads and a thread cap on them. Keeps the threads from rusting.
Never use oil / grease or any other petroleum product on a regulator or line that feeds one. It's an explosion hazard. If ya want to clean threads / cut the handle off of a pipe cleaning brush & put it in you drill at low speed & use teflon tape if ya want to preserve/ seal the joint.
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Never use oil / grease or any other petroleum product on a regulator or line that feeds one. It's an explosion hazard. If ya want to clean threads / cut the handle off of a pipe cleaning brush & put it in you drill at low speed & use teflon tape if ya want to preserve/ seal the joint.
I think you can use Dilectric grease. Pretty sure It's non-flammable.
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Die-electric grease is silicone based & has a very low 500° flash point , so it's not reccomended for anything near a burner.
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NEVER, use oil or grease! 🧨
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The last time I bought the tanks (I fill now) they were from 8.99 to 12.99 cdn.
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So how do you heat with alcohol
Alcohol stove. Only real downside is the burners don't hold a ton of fuel, so I have a couple to swap out and refuel.
The price of alcohol has gone way up the past couple years, so it really isn't much cheaper than propane anymore.
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Thanks ZCM
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Thanks ZCM
No problem. It's not as convenient as LP or white gas, but the fumes don't bother my eyes.
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Just be careful, I know that I read last year of several that went up in flames and burned down the shanty. I bought a 5lb tank after I saw that.
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Just be careful, I know that I read last year of several that went up in flames and burned down the shanty. I bought a 5lb tank after I saw that.
My 5# And 11# tank are the least used most inconvenient tanks I have. Actually thinking about selling them. Glad the 5# works for you though.
I've just ran into to many issues with the 5# & 11# to bother using them much.
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Holy cow I'm glad I got my 6 refillable at $14 $42 seems outragous.
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Just be careful, I know that I read last year of several that went up in flames and burned down the shanty. I bought a 5lb tank after I saw that.
Love my 5#. Going on 4th season with no issues using a tank top heater. Never go back to those 1# PIA's.
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Holy cow I'm glad I got my 6 refillable at $14 $42 seems outragous.
They're $18-$20 at the couple places that seem to have them in stock lately.
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http://https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.store-specialty.com/flame-king-1-lb-refillable-propane-cylinder-sale/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjJ9-bJ7uD7AhV9q3IEHRUGCJkQgOUECN0R&usg=AOvVaw0Y1DVNFD3NIsXrStifngmm
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Just a few articles on why NOT to use refillable 1 lb containers...I'll save my life and pay $5.99 each.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1+lb+refilled+propane+tank+explodes+while+ice+fishing&docid=608012909736517948&mid=3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Thoughts and prayers to this man and his family. It makes me wonder if he was one of the guys that said " I have done it for years with no problems".
POLK COUNTY (WCCO) — One person is dead and another is in the hospital after a garage explosion and fire Saturday, according to the Polk County Sheriff’s Office.
The Sheriff’s Office says the incident occurred at 657 U.S. Highway 8 in Apple River Township. Stanley Johnson, 81, was inside the garage “actively filling a small 1 lb LP cylinder from a larger 20 lb tank” when the small tank ruptured and ignited the escaping gas.
Johnson’s wife, 77-year-old Nancy Johnson, was in the garage area when the explosion occurred. She was pronounced deceased on scene.
Stanley Johnson was able to escape the garage. He was transported to Amery Regional Medical Center for treatment of his injuries
https://flameking.com/1-lb-recall-notice/
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Just a few articles on why NOT to use refillable 1 lb containers...I'll save my life and pay $5.99 each.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1+lb+refilled+propane+tank+explodes+while+ice+fishing&docid=608012909736517948&mid=3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Thoughts and prayers to this man and his family. It makes me wonder if he was one of the guys that said " I have done it for years with no problems".
POLK COUNTY (WCCO) — One person is dead and another is in the hospital after a garage explosion and fire Saturday, according to the Polk County Sheriff’s Office.
The Sheriff’s Office says the incident occurred at 657 U.S. Highway 8 in Apple River Township. Stanley Johnson, 81, was inside the garage “actively filling a small 1 lb LP cylinder from a larger 20 lb tank” when the small tank ruptured and ignited the escaping gas.
Johnson’s wife, 77-year-old Nancy Johnson, was in the garage area when the explosion occurred. She was pronounced deceased on scene.
Stanley Johnson was able to escape the garage. He was transported to Amery Regional Medical Center for treatment of his injuries
https://flameking.com/1-lb-recall-notice/
That is tragic but if you overfill a tire and it explodes............yo u can't really claim the tire is faulty.
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Just a few articles on why NOT to use refillable 1 lb containers...I'll save my life and pay $5.99 each.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1+lb+refilled+propane+tank+explodes+while+ice+fishing&docid=608012909736517948&mid=3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Thoughts and prayers to this man and his family. It makes me wonder if he was one of the guys that said " I have done it for years with no problems".
POLK COUNTY (WCCO) — One person is dead and another is in the hospital after a garage explosion and fire Saturday, according to the Polk County Sheriff’s Office.
The Sheriff’s Office says the incident occurred at 657 U.S. Highway 8 in Apple River Township. Stanley Johnson, 81, was inside the garage “actively filling a small 1 lb LP cylinder from a larger 20 lb tank” when the small tank ruptured and ignited the escaping gas.
Johnson’s wife, 77-year-old Nancy Johnson, was in the garage area when the explosion occurred. She was pronounced deceased on scene.
Stanley Johnson was able to escape the garage. He was transported to Amery Regional Medical Center for treatment of his injuries
https://flameking.com/1-lb-recall-notice/
Better walk to the lake might get in an accident on the way there. Oh wait you could slip and fall walking, better stay home..
Refilling the disposable tanks has some risk but the refillable ones seem quite idiot proof or we'd have lots of incidents
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They are still making 5lb tanks. They hold plenty of fuel for a day, much more compact in size and easier to transport than juggling 5 separate tanks. And from the sounds of it, the 5lb tank investment appears to be much safer.
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Re-filling a tank in an enclosed space , would be like changing a fuel filter by candle light. You can't protect the inept from themselves. Do it in an open air space, dont overfill & spray the re-filled tank w/ soap bubble mixture to make sure valve needle & seat sealed & you'll be safe.
& never keep tanks in the house.
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They are still making 5lb tanks. They hold plenty of fuel for a day, much more compact in size and easier to transport than juggling 5 separate tanks. And from the sounds of it, the 5lb tank investment appears to be much safer.
Exactly
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My buddy swore by the flame king until his shanty and gear went up in flames while he was at a tip-up. Someone was looking out for him and he swore the flame kings were safe ....NOT
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Just a few articles on why NOT to use refillable 1 lb containers...I'll save my life and pay $5.99 each.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1+lb+refilled+propane+tank+explodes+while+ice+fishing&docid=608012909736517948&mid=3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE3191AFD1A8F20E7D3FCE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Thoughts and prayers to this man and his family. It makes me wonder if he was one of the guys that said " I have done it for years with no problems".
POLK COUNTY (WCCO) — One person is dead and another is in the hospital after a garage explosion and fire Saturday, according to the Polk County Sheriff’s Office.
The Sheriff’s Office says the incident occurred at 657 U.S. Highway 8 in Apple River Township. Stanley Johnson, 81, was inside the garage “actively filling a small 1 lb LP cylinder from a larger 20 lb tank” when the small tank ruptured and ignited the escaping gas.
Johnson’s wife, 77-year-old Nancy Johnson, was in the garage area when the explosion occurred. She was pronounced deceased on scene.
Stanley Johnson was able to escape the garage. He was transported to Amery Regional Medical Center for treatment of his injuries
https://flameking.com/1-lb-recall-notice/
Thanks for the recall notice. Checked the 6 I have and they were All well made after the recall.
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They are still making 5lb tanks. They hold plenty of fuel for a day, much more compact in size and easier to transport than juggling 5 separate tanks. And from the sounds of it, the 5lb tank investment appears to be much safer.
I thought the 5lb tank or 11lb tank would be the ticket. Works great when completely full and going out for a day.
The issues I have with my 5# and 11# is more than likely due to my local area. The local coop oil would top them off for me a few years ago. Then they were bought out. The new management changed The rules and went to a $20 minimum for refilling LP tanks. So no topping off my 5# or 11# tanks when I've use a few lbs out of it. That left me at having to refill the 5#, 11#, and A 20# tank when I went to get over the $20 min.
Mainly due to the refill policy locally, it's more convenient to just refill 1# tanks off the 20# tank until the 20 is empty.
Totally get where the 5# tank would work great if a person could go out with it always being filled up. But going out for a few hours and only having 2# left in it would put a guy in the position where you would have to take a couple 1# tanks anyway to get through the day. When it comes to transport......4-6 1# tanks fit just fine in the sled to transport. 5# fits good to.....but no benefit over the 1# unless its full
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My buddy swore by the flame king until his shanty and gear went up in flames while he was at a tip-up. Someone was looking out for him and he swore the flame kings were safe ....NOT
Unfortunately, no matter how many times people see things like this, they're not gonna quit filling their own. Why? Because their IQ tells them "this will never happen to me" or "they must not have been doing it right". ::)
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Love my 5#. Going on 4th season with no issues using a tank top heater. Never go back to those 1# PIA's.
Actually I find the 1 lb. very convenient.........for torch, small Buddy, Big Buddy, barbecue, single burner stove. Also use the small heater in the hunting blinds sometimes.
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Unfortunately, no matter how many times people see things like this, they're not gonna quit filling their own. Why? Because their IQ tells them "this will never happen to me" or "they must not have been doing it right". ::)
There are things called accidents. I know of a number of ice shacks that Have burn down using standard LP tanks. I even know of a few houses that exploded due to gas leaks. People who burned up garages using grills, heaters, etc.
Its dangerous using a 5# tank also, hoses leak, connections leak, nothing is 100% safe. Is it a bit safer then 1# tanks.....maybe a bit.....
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Things happen. Comparing apples and oranges by treating certified refillables like green bombs isn't helping anyone be safer.
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I like my 11 lb tank.
It's easy to get refilled at my local U-Haul.
If I bring a couple other tanks and get over the 11 gallon Mark I get a price break if I get over 21 gallons I get an even better price break.
And my local U-Haul will refill any amount no minimums so it is possible for me to get my 11 pounder filled whenever I need to.
But early in the season it is nice to pack a little bit lighter for the hike out and in that situation I use my flame King refillable 1 pounders.
Some of my buddies have cold issues due to diabetes etc so when they're with me it's a little warmer in the shack, but by myself I really don't go through a ton of propane in a day.
The little green bombs are not meant to be refilled and you can't compare them to something like a car tire that is meant to be refilled.
Another aspect is if you're filling the little green bombs you are not legal to transport them.
That's not to say that someone is out there stopping vehicles and checking for refilled 1lb propane tanks.
But, let's say for example someone gets hurt from one of your home filled 1lb tanks I imagine a lawyer would have a hay day with that.
Whether it happens to be a car wreck on your way to the lake or your buddies kid getting burned in your ice shanty.
Especially since you posted a picture of a milk crate full of home filled 1 lb green tanks on a major fishing forum and admitted to refilling them.
To protect the threads on my refillables I purchased some brass caps to fit them off of Amazon.
They were relatively inexpensive, or at least they were a couple years ago when I bought them.
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Who is refilling green bombs?
I refilled the 6 flame king 1# tanks I have. The 3 green bombs were leftovers from trips camping/fishing running a grill. Look at the picture.
The black caps were gone so I put some 3d printed caps on them with a touch of oil on the threads so they don't rust or get banged up when transporting in the sled. All my 1# tanks get stored in a milk crate on my front porch which is open, and I use them on my Weber grill. I typically use the refillable 1# and refill them before I get to the green bombs. once I use a green bomb I toss it. In other words the reason I capped and put oil on the green bomb threads is because I don't plan to use them, unless I can't keep up with refilling my 1# refillable tanks.
I've also got a bunch of brass caps for 1# tanks.....they work to, but the 3d printed caps when Ice fishing are nice. The plastic floats and if I lose one it cost me a nickle.
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Who is refilling green bombs?
I refilled the 6 flame king 1# tanks I have. The 3 green bombs were leftovers from trips camping/fishing running a grill. Look at the picture.
The black caps were gone so I put some 3d printed caps on them with a touch of oil on the threads so they don't rust or get banged up when transporting in the sled. All my 1# tanks get stored in a milk crate on my front porch which is open, and I use them on my Weber grill. I typically use the refillable 1# and refill them before I get to the green bombs. once I use a green bomb I toss it. In other words the reason I capped and put oil on the green bomb threads is because I don't plan to use them, unless I can't keep up with refilling my 1# refillable tanks.
I've also got a bunch of brass caps for 1# tanks.....they work to, but the 3d printed caps when Ice fishing are nice. The plastic floats and if I lose one it cost me a nickle.
:thumbsup: caps had me thinking you had refilled some bombs.
Here's another link in case there's still some looking for tanks.
https://www.scheels.com/p/flame-king-1-lb-refillable-cylinder/89900300032.html?cgid=all#start=1
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Who is refilling green bombs?
Maybe you should look back on past threads?
You know the ones in several previous years where you've openly admitted many times how you refill green bombs!
Even posting pictures and instructions on how to modify the flame King refiller so you can refill the green bombs!
Took me less than a minute to find those old threads.
But I'm sure you're going to say you no longer fill the green bombs! 😆 😂 😆
I certainly don't believe you and I don't think a jury would either.
But in all seriousness my point is this: refilling the green bombs could be dangerous. Though the odds are slim It could also get you in trouble and a person probably shouldn't admit to doing it on the internet just in case.
BTW I just purchased two more flame King refillables from Scheels and they were $20 each and $8 to ship them to me here in Alaska!
I have five of them. Four for ice fishing and one for the Jig Making workshop.
But I was thinking a couple more would come in handy.
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Yeah, I did refill green bombs in the past BEFORE I had 6 of the refillable tanks. The refillable one refill so much easier and quicker....
On another note......no I do not care what you say or think. No I'm not going to argue with you over childish things.....once again you look to cause/push an issue so you can argue. please find some help, you need it. If you are going to try and find something to argue about in every thread I post in...let me know....I'll just block you and save us both time, however....I'm sure you'll find something about that to argue about.....
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The issues I have with my 5# and 11# is more than likely due to my local area. The local coop oil would top them off for me a few years ago.
The ace hardware in spirit lake will fill them. I have an 11# and every ACE in SD/IA/MN area has never turned me down or had a problem filling mine.
If you dont want your 5# and 11# I am close to you and will take them off your hands.
BTW I have 4 flame king 1#'ers and they work great for me also with no issues.
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There are things called accidents. I know of a number of ice shacks that Have burn down using standard LP tanks. I even know of a few houses that exploded due to gas leaks. People who burned up garages using grills, heaters, etc.
Its dangerous using a 5# tank also, hoses leak, connections leak, nothing is 100% safe. Is it a bit safer then 1# tanks.....maybe a bit.....
Some things are just not worth your life. Every year at the beginning I check my hose for leaks, my grill for leaks and my heater for leaks and then Im set. My buddy got a big fine for refilling green bombs and this caused the fire. He should have told EPA they were new but he was being honest.
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There are so many accidents with Flame King that there are law suhttps://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e3861a638fc4b355JmltdHM9MTY3MDE5ODQwMCZpZ3VpZD0yZTZkNTc0Ny1lN2E2LTZhOGYtMWEyNy00NzgyZTYyOTZiMmMmaW5zaWQ9NTIzOQ&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=2e6d5747-e7a6-6a8f-1a27-4782e6296b2c&psq=flame+king+accidents&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY2xhc3NhY3Rpb25sYXdzdWl0aGVscC5jb20vZmxhbWUta2luZy1wcm9wYW5lLXRhbmstY2xhc3MtYWN0aW9uLWxhd3N1aXQv&ntb=1it sites out there just for that!!!!!
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from your link: this recall affects Hog 100-pound Flame King Propane Cylinders,
The cylinders are white and have built-in wheels, and can be identified by serial numbers 000001 through 002800. UPC 850015730016 and SKU YSN100HOG are printed on the box.
Dont think anybody here is running around with a portable ice shack and a 100lb propane tank on wheels
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Really like the 1# flame king refill system. I had used the adapter to fill Coleman cylinders off and on for 15 years but it always made me nervous. Bought the kit last year before I realized the 1lb cylinders were nowhere to be found. Found some at a scheels in late summer for $17 glad I did cause I haven’t seen them anywhere since. I run three tanks might grab a couple more when I find them again. Only downside to running three is that you have to refill a couple to make sure you have enough for the second day. I have to take the stand and valve with on weekend trips. Couple more tanks might eliminate the need for that.
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The ace hardware in spirit lake will fill them. I have an 11# and every ACE in SD/IA/MN area has never turned me down or had a problem filling mine.
If you dont want your 5# and 11# I am close to you and will take them off your hands.
BTW I have 4 flame king 1#'ers and they work great for me also with no issues.
That would work if I refilled in Spirit Lake. It’s an hour away.
I still use my 5# and 11# for the Turkey fryer, fish fryer, and fire pit.
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That would work if I refilled in Spirit Lake. It’s an hour away.
Plenty of other ace locations in your area. You obviously fish triboji frequently. I think your making it more of an issue to get your smaller tanks filled than it is.
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That's an ambulance chaser website for product recalls. No injury's have been reported according to this government site.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2021/Flame-King-Recalls-Hog-100-Pound-Propane-Cylinders-Due-to-Fire-Hazard#:~:text=Consumers%20should%20immediately%20stop%20using,or%20injuries%20have%20been%20reported.
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Plenty of other ace locations in your area. You obviously fish triboji frequently. I think your making it more of an issue to get your smaller tanks filled than it is.
I fished triboji and the lakes a bunch during covid. Other then that maybe 1-2 times a winter.
I'm sure if I want to screw around and drive 20min or more for a location to only charge me a top off refill on a small tank I could find one.....but its pointless to do when I figure my time and gas to do it, that's the point on why the 1# refillables are more convenient, and cost effective in my case. Glad the 5# and 10# work for u.