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Post by: ira-akrfc on Dec 28, 2012, 12:35 PM
Saw these first while browsing ebay. Anybody have any experience with these? Comments? Reviews?
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Post by: nonamer on Dec 28, 2012, 01:15 PM
the name of the company doesn't help. which one are you looking at.
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Post by: Hard stuff on Dec 28, 2012, 01:29 PM
Over rated JUNK....
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Post by: walleyewarrior50595 on Dec 28, 2012, 01:30 PM
I own the wicked model and would recommend it to any one. Pretty sweet and sensative rod for 29.99.
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Post by: walleyewarrior50595 on Dec 28, 2012, 01:33 PM
The inline combos snd these black betty reels seem to be a passing trend but I've had no question of quality with my wicked.
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Post by: PikeKing2323 on Dec 28, 2012, 01:49 PM
I have the whiteout and it has a light rod tip with great backbone. Good rod and reel combo and I like the feel of it.
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Post by: Jig4M on Dec 28, 2012, 03:47 PM
I bought 2 Black Betty's this year. I'll let you know as soon as I can get out on the ice to try em' out!
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Post by: boder on Dec 28, 2012, 05:13 PM
have not used these but just looking at them in the store i liked what i saw.
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Post by: reddog11 on Dec 28, 2012, 05:19 PM
NEVER HEARD OF IT.
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 28, 2012, 05:28 PM
i have both reels and a med 28" to match the 6061 reel and a 27 UL for the other , we shall see
and hard stuff you call it over rated junk, have you used any of these to make an informed decision ? 
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Post by: Greg2ha on Dec 28, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dumb question coming ahead fellas. I haven't researched these reels much or no very little about tight lining. My question is since these reels are basically fly reels do you put backing on or just normal icefishing line on them?
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Post by: wipike on Dec 28, 2012, 06:10 PM
They had nice action, but in the end I preferred the action on my Jason Mitchell rods so I stayed with them.  I was initially excited for the BB reel, but after playing with it for a while I decided I'll stick with spinners for the moment.

It's a nice lineup, just not for me.

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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 28, 2012, 06:13 PM
Dumb question coming ahead fellas. I haven't researched these reels much or no very little about tight lining. My question is since these reels are basically fly reels do you put backing on or just normal icefishing line on them?
put backing on to maximize the retrive i'm only using mine for walleyes
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Post by: huntny30 on Dec 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
Looking forward to using mine as well...the company makes quality stuff...
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Post by: esox_magnum on Dec 28, 2012, 07:35 PM
I love my 6061, well made quality reel, also love my 19" Wicked sight rod for gills, havent been out deep yet to try out the
White Out but I'm sure I will be pleased with it to.... Much nicer rods than my JM's and good enough quality that they cured my hunger for more TB rods....
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Post by: huntny30 on Dec 28, 2012, 07:45 PM
Another cool thing is they sent me a free hat too... ;D
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Post by: northernfisher on Dec 28, 2012, 07:55 PM
 I picked up a black betty 27" ul and a white out 28" light action today, Hope I can try them out this weekend, They are a very nice!!
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Post by: Hard stuff on Dec 28, 2012, 08:22 PM
Don't believe the hype....Its a over priced fad because fishing stores dont make money off of a $4 schooley reel that does the same thing...Ask a REAL tight liner what they use..These things are made from cast aluminum you can buy a quality machined fly reel for the same price....
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Post by: esox_magnum on Dec 28, 2012, 09:09 PM
Don't believe the hype....Its a over priced fad because fishing stores dont make money off of a $4 schooley reel that does the same thing...Ask a REAL tight liner what they use..These things are made from cast aluminum you can buy a quality machined fly reel for the same price....

 Quality fly reels I looked at we 5X what a 6061 was....Even my Okuma SLV while by no means a high end fly reel was still in the $60 range and does not have the capabilities of the 6061, fact no fly reel I have seen has a free spool function....
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Post by: OldSailor on Dec 28, 2012, 09:24 PM
The Black Betty is $39.95 from a sponsor or two of ours!! You won't find quality machined fly reels for that!! It depends on your preference and your budget. I have a Black Betty on a Wicked rod and see no need for backing as on a fly reel!! The arbor is fairly shallow and made to be filled with mono or flouro line The new inline style reels also have a longer foot like on a spinning reel, which helps when wearing gloves. They have their place in an ice fisherman's arsenal and are worth a look if you are doing any tight lining!! That's just my unbiased $.02 worth on the subject!! ;)2 :whistle: :icefish:
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Post by: northernfisher on Dec 28, 2012, 09:28 PM
Over rated JUNK....

Damn guess I spent 115 buck for junk...... why do you say they are junk?  They seam pretty darn nice to me, better then any of the jigg sticks in the store......
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Post by: frostbittin on Dec 29, 2012, 05:23 AM
The $40 black betty reel loosens the spool as you decrease the drag setting, resulting in a wobbly spool. I returned the two i purchased after unboxing them and realizing this. I then bought two slv 2/3's and really like them alot. If i purchase any more straightline reels, they will be a #0 tfo or orvis fly reel (they are $130 & $150, but are works of art and one is 2.1 oz and the other is 3.7oz).
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Post by: frostbittin on Dec 29, 2012, 05:25 AM
That being said, i have never handled the black betty 6061 but bet it is a nice reel. I would be interested in one maybe, but not unless i could go into a store and try it out first.
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Post by: s10xr on Dec 29, 2012, 05:32 AM
I just bought a white out 28" med combo this year.  I drueled over it all last year and pulled the trigger this year.  I would consider these rods far from over priced junk.  Pick one up and you can feel how nice it is.  How will it hold up?  Ill tell you when I get back from bay of quinte because I plan on yanking on 10lb walleyes with it. 
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 29, 2012, 08:01 AM
The Black Betty is $39.95 from a sponsor or two of ours!! You won't find quality machined fly reels for that!! It depends on your preference and your budget. I have a Black Betty on a Wicked rod and see no need for backing as on a fly reel!! The arbor is fairly shallow and made to be filled with mono or flouro line The new inline style reels also have a longer foot like on a spinning reel, which helps when wearing gloves. They have their place in an ice fisherman's arsenal and are worth a look if you are doing any tight lining!! That's just my unbiased $.02 worth on the subject!! ;)2 :whistle: :icefish:
well on 6061 i'm using fireline and have no need of 200 + yrds on it for eyes , and on the other black betty i put on some backing and put on 125yrd spool of three lb i should have put more backing on it what a waste of line for pans IMO
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Post by: esox_magnum on Dec 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
I got maybe 50' of 3# on my gill reel ( SLV) about 200' on my 6061, no need for more than that and a spool of line will last a couple seasons....
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 29, 2012, 08:13 AM
I got maybe 50' of 3# on my gill reel ( SLV) about 200' on my 6061, no need for more than that and a spool of line will last a couple seasons....
no kidding, i won't make that mistake with the 6061 i only use 50 yrds for eyes , i'm going to respool the little one geeze, i must have had a poor spell  ;D
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Post by: esox_magnum on Dec 29, 2012, 08:25 AM
I only use my SLV to 15 or so feet the 6061 will be used down to 50' only put on what I need, can always add more if needed just strip to the backing and add new....I do the same on my spinning combos to but only use Flouro or Mono not a fan of superlines other than on my muskie reels and bottom bouncer set ups for eyes.....although I do have Nano on 1 open water spinning setup for casting X Raps and only since I got it free...Nano frays real bad but other than that a good casting line just have to watch for frays...
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 29, 2012, 10:03 AM

i troll with fireline for eyes  , but jig with power pro high vis with trans optic leader ,
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Post by: Hard stuff on Dec 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
Guys from Tampa FL laughing all the way to the bank because they found a nitch in the market....ha ha suckers!!!! bet they know every thing about icefishing down there!!!!
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Post by: OldSailor on Dec 29, 2012, 12:02 PM
Guys from Tampa FL laughing all the way to the bank because they found a nitch in the market....ha ha suckers!!!! bet they know every thing about icefishing down there!!!!
We are all laughing at you because you don't/won't put your location on your profile!! No one said you had to buy their products!! :whistle:
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Post by: Hard stuff on Dec 29, 2012, 12:02 PM
And its called TIGHT LINING not straight lining ..... Who made that up??? The ice fishers from Tampa... LOLZ 
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Post by: Hard stuff on Dec 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Im from SW Ohio where we get to ice fish 1 month out of the year ....
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Post by: OldSailor on Dec 29, 2012, 12:09 PM
Im from SW Ohio where we get to ice fish 1 month out of the year ....
Same with me!! Hope you get that month!!! Don't plan on it unless you plan on heading north!!! Oh, and put that location on your profile!!!! Thanks in advance!!! :icefish:
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Post by: dkfry on Dec 29, 2012, 12:24 PM
I bought a regular Black Betty reel due to lack of time to machine my own. It is not a bad reel for the money. It hangs down to far (reel stem too long) IMO and the spool is not optimally designed. They left too much space on the spool  for line especially since most guys will put on a max of 110yds of 2-4 lb line.(I have 55yds of 2lb fluro on mine) The spool could have easily been made bigger in diameter to increase the retreive rate and make the line coil size even larger thus helping to prevent memory. The drag knob is also too loose on the bolt. A good start but there are can be some improvements made IMO.
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 29, 2012, 01:50 PM
Guys from Tampa FL laughing all the way to the bank because they found a nitch in the market....ha ha suckers!!!! bet they know every thing about icefishing down there!!!!


you might think a little different on that if you ever had one of their trigger rods or spinning in your little paws , i have and they are quite nice , and besides they build rods for one of the big chain stores to they may have some of your money already  ;D
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Post by: esox_magnum on Dec 29, 2012, 07:45 PM
Guys from Tampa FL laughing all the way to the bank because they found a nitch in the market....ha ha suckers!!!! bet they know every thing about icefishing down there!!!!

One of the guys is a former Berkley engineer guessing he spent alot of time on the ice during his tenure at Pure Fishing in Spirit Lake Iowa....One of the top panfish destinations in the country...