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Title: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 16, 2018, 12:53 PM
Sorry if this topic has been covered before....I looked in the archives and didn't get specific answer.  This weekend, 20v Dewalt 1/2" with 7" Mora and 11" of ice in -2 degrees of air....got about 8 holes before battery died.  Had a lot of hang ups towards bottom of hole.  (My first time using 7" blade with drill).  Other day used 5" Mora and drilled as many (15-20) on single battery...much warmer as well.  Switched over to 5" and other battery to finish day, no problems.  I'm still figuring out how to really be effective with drill system, I love it...just need some friendly advice.  And no, I'm not getting a different drill for this year....(it is brushless....maybe a Rigid next year)
Thanks guys
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 16, 2018, 01:00 PM
Model of drill and Amp Hour of your batteries ?
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 16, 2018, 01:06 PM
There is about 50 different answers to that question, lot of variables
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Duck-Hunter on Jan 16, 2018, 01:11 PM
A lot of variables go into the equation.

I have a Milwaukee m18 Hammer drill, nils 6' auger. I get about 80 holes out of a 5amp battery cutting 6-8" of ice
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Houligan on Jan 16, 2018, 01:20 PM
How old are the batteries?

Was the battery kept warm?

If your dewalt 20v is a "Max" type tool then you might want to upgrade to the 60 volt FlexVolt battery, which is a 5 or 6ah at 60v in the flesvolt tools but you will get 9ah in your 20v Max tools.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: JiggingIowa on Jan 16, 2018, 01:38 PM
With a 6” Nils and 4ah 18v ridgid drill I average around 600-700” of ice on a battery
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 16, 2018, 01:54 PM
Batteries are brand new...used 2x.  Kept in house until I ventured out...both charged.    (Lith Ion)  Not sure about amps or anything else....just a basic idea of how many I should expect to get....I thought 8 was low.  Cut like butter until bottom lock.  Then drill wanted to twist hard in hand.  I'm just thinking 7" is too big...but 5" too small of holes...especially on below freezing day...those 5" soon turn to 3".
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 16, 2018, 01:58 PM
Batteries are brand new...used 2x.  Kept in house until I ventured out...both charged.    (Lith Ion)  Not sure about amps or anything else....just a basic idea of how many I should expect to get....I thought 8 was low.  Cut like butter until bottom lock.  Then drill wanted to twist hard in hand.  I'm just thinking 7" is too big...but 5" too small of holes...especially on below freezing day...those 5" soon turn to 3".

Without knowing the model drill or amp hour of your batteries no one can tell you with any certainty or experience what you should or should not expect from your set up.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 16, 2018, 02:04 PM
ok, I'll look at it when I get home and get back to you all.  Thanks.  I just know its a Dewalt 20v hammer drill.  I'll check amp hours and model.  Thanks
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: eriksat1 on Jan 16, 2018, 02:56 PM
Last winter I was getting about 24 holes with one battery through 20" of ice with 1/2"  milwaukee m-18 fuel 1200 Lbs torque. with 5ah red litium batterys. Only one time  last year I needed to get into the second battery.
8” k-drill
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Preacher_man on Jan 16, 2018, 03:27 PM
 I have a 20 volt Dewalt Hammerdrill. I set it on 1 and use the hammerdrill setting. And I use a 8" lazer auger. I have drilled 27 holes with 17" of ice on one battery.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: 32footsteps on Jan 16, 2018, 05:02 PM
I set it on 1 and use the hammerdrill setting.

Why? Everything I’ve ever read or have heard people say is to NOT use it on hammerdrill. Curious why you do.

I can get around 700 inches with a 4ah battery on my Ryobi paired with a 6” Eskimo that has sharp blades. Blade sharpness and type of ice are important variables to consider. There are some fanboys who will be aghast upon reading that because it’s not a big bad Milwaukee drill turning a K-Drill.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Lsranger406 on Jan 16, 2018, 05:30 PM
m18 kdrill and clam plate. 5.0ah batterys. I got 61 holes through 9 inches of ice.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: quickco on Jan 16, 2018, 05:56 PM
this comes down to so many factors, temp, windchill, battery temp, battery size, battery age, battery composition, drill settings,drill torque. drill weight, torque conversion, ice thickness, ice hardness, blade angle, blade age, blade edge, pushing auger, pulling auger, auger weight, ice on auger, getting loose etc. i have read every single drill and auger setup info thread on here and nobody has the same experience. to the point there has been arguments.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 16, 2018, 06:09 PM
this comes down to so many factors, temp, windchill, battery temp, battery size, battery age, battery composition, drill settings,drill torque. drill weight, torque conversion, ice thickness, ice hardness, blade angle, blade age, blade edge, pushing auger, pulling auger, auger weight, ice on auger, getting loose etc. i have read every single drill and auger setup info thread on here and nobody has the same experience. to the point there has been arguments.
So true on all of those factors.

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Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 16, 2018, 06:17 PM
I have a 20 volt Dewalt Hammerdrill. I set it on 1 and use the hammerdrill setting. And I use a 8" lazer auger. I have drilled 27 holes with 17" of ice on one battery.
.         Do what u want but not supposed to use on hammer drill setting, use in drill mode
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: PaddyO on Jan 16, 2018, 06:22 PM
Had over 30 8" holes in 16" of black ice with my Dewalt 20V Max set on 1 - and plenty of battery left...   keep the battery warm...  beers cold.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 16, 2018, 09:06 PM
I believe it says 1.3 ah 26wh type 1 (max)   I didn't mean to cause any confusion, just thought it was awful quick for that to die. Thought I'd get more out of it. Thanks for great feedback.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: quickco on Jan 16, 2018, 09:47 PM
my 20 v brushless with 1.3ah has done from 22 holes down to only 5 on a full charge. all depends
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: RyanW on Jan 17, 2018, 12:29 AM
I believe it says 1.3 ah 26wh type 1 (max)   I didn't mean to cause any confusion, just thought it was awful quick for that to die. Thought I'd get more out of it. Thanks for great feedback.

If it’s a 1.3ah battery, I think you’re doing great with those numbers. Drilling a 7”/8” hole takes a lot of juice. Get a bigger battery and things should be gravy.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Loudmouth879 on Jan 17, 2018, 01:29 AM
The other day had about a half charged milwaukee m-18 fuel 1200 Lbs torque with a 5ah battery Temp was around 15-20 with the wind chill battery was out in the cold  with a 7" strike master laser attached with the clam plate drilled about 30-40 holes with it through 6"-10" inches of ice
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 17, 2018, 04:14 AM
I believe it says 1.3 ah 26wh type 1 (max)   I didn't mean to cause any confusion, just thought it was awful quick for that to die. Thought I'd get more out of it. Thanks for great feedback.

1.3 ah batteries turning an 8 in auger is asking a lot ...you need to up your game to 4 or5 ah batteries ..if your Dewalt isn't either the 995 or 996 model version it wont be long before you burn out your drill. Max auger size is 6 in ...min 750 in/lbs of torque...
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Evil Tom on Jan 17, 2018, 05:50 AM
Don't take offense but DeWalt is junk.Rigid brushless 18v 5ah 20 holes thru 12" no problem.Any more than 12 I use ion.Any more than 20 I use gas jiffy.Cordless drill isn't supposed cut a 7" hole really puts beating on drill I'm on my second rigid in 10 yrs.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Charman03 on Jan 17, 2018, 08:01 AM
I recently punched 32 holes testing out my rigid on 7" of ice and didn't even use half of a 2 amp battery, so I could have easily got 70+.

Running the rigid on a clam plate with 6" lazer.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Bull_Gill_Mike on Jan 17, 2018, 08:23 AM
Don't take offense but DeWalt is junk.Rigid brushless 18v 5ah 20 holes thru 12" no problem.Any more than 12 I use ion.Any more than 20 I use gas jiffy.Cordless drill isn't supposed cut a 7" hole really puts beating on drill I'm on my second rigid in 10 yrs.
HA!  How many screws do you drive with that drill before you have to switch to the corded Ridgid???  I'm a Contractor and I let the Dewalt Eat on a 9ah battery.  Didn't pull the power auger off the Ranger this weekend in 12 to 15" of ice.  I count fish not holes but I didn't switch batteries!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 17, 2018, 08:44 AM
Great stuff....so from what I've heard I've concluded a couple things:
1. Many factors need to be taken not account... temp, ice thickness, battery amp, auger size, etc.
2.  I should get a bigger battery, more ah ( I can do that with my drill?).
3. If punching more than a few, and thicker ice, either go smaller auger or to my gas...too much stress on drill.
4. Get a better (more expensive) drill, maybe next Black Friday.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Iceshanty on Jan 17, 2018, 08:53 AM
Diehard nailed this one. Make sure you have one of those models. I tried my dcd780 dewalt, while it worked well with a 6" nils bit you could tell it was laboring at 18"+ of ice. Last season I purchased the dcd996 coupled with 2-5ah batts and it kicks butt.

1.3 ah batteries turning an 8 in auger is asking a lot ...you need to up your game to 4 or5 ah batteries ..if your Dewalt isn't either the 995 or 996 model version it wont be long before you burn out your drill. Max auger size is 6 in ...min 750 in/lbs of torque...
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 17, 2018, 12:24 PM
Diehard nailed this one. Make sure you have one of those models. I tried my dcd780 dewalt, while it worked well with a 6" nils bit you could tell it was laboring at 18"+ of ice. Last season I purchased the dcd996 coupled with 2-5ah batts and it kicks butt.

I started with a DCD771 ..1.3 ah batteries on a SM 6" Lazer ...4 inches of ice it worked ...at 6 inches of ice..the set up was strained to say the least ...finally burnt up after installing onto a Clam plate and was trying to make it may goto midseason/6 plus inches of ice .My next set up was a Gen 1 Clam plate ..refurbished Dewalt 995..4 ah batteries SM 6"  Lazer...worked well and was my goto auger for last season as short as it was... this year same drill and batteries ...new non chuck removal Clam Plate...8" Kdrill ...light and dependable ..this past weekend it saved the day as my buddy's SM Mag 2000 would not stay running ...didn't really keep a hole count ...but went through one 4 ah battery ..which was left out in the elements ...6F to20F.If I were to do it again ...Milwaukee 2703/2704 ...5 ah batteries Clam Plate and 8" Kdrill.
I got to see  buddy's Milwaukee drill atop a 6"Kdrill this weekend ...the side handle is just asking for trouble ..although you don't need it for drilling other then to steady it ...if subject to any downward pressure could be issues experienced by others.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: ejdelvo28 on Jan 17, 2018, 12:55 PM
~800 inches with my M18 fuel, 5 amp battery and 6" lazer.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: matzilla on Jan 17, 2018, 01:32 PM
depending on the temperature outside, I get 10-30 holes with a 20v brushed 1.5ah Masterforce drill and a 5" lazer in 12" of ice....been using this drill with a 5" mora or lazer for 4 years on the ice now with 0 problems. I bring my extra battery every time I fish but rarely use it unless I'm hole hopping for hours when its less than 10 degrees
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 17, 2018, 01:43 PM
Great stuff....so from what I've heard I've concluded a couple things:
1. Many factors need to be taken not account... temp, ice thickness, battery amp, auger size, etc.
2.  I should get a bigger battery, more ah ( I can do that with my drill?).
3. If punching more than a few, and thicker ice, either go smaller auger or to my gas...too much stress on drill.
4. Get a better (more expensive) drill, maybe next Black Friday.
.          Exactly whatI told u , way to many variables to take into account !!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: DTro on Jan 17, 2018, 01:44 PM
DeWalt DCD996 with 5aH battery  8" KDrill  15" of ice   10 degrees F  23 Holes or 345" of ice. 

 I imagine a less aggressive laser bit you should be able to do at least 30 holes or 450" of ice, maybe more.

Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 17, 2018, 01:59 PM
DeWalt DCD996 with 5aH battery  8" KDrill  15" of ice   10 degrees F  23 Holes or 345" of ice. 

 I imagine a less aggressive laser bit you should be able to do at least 30 holes or 450" of ice, maybe more.



Your video inspired me to go with the 8" Kdrill
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: DTro on Jan 17, 2018, 03:28 PM
I think you will like it.  I love mine
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: tentwiststhick on Jan 18, 2018, 09:41 PM
Since acquiring my 6" Clam setup a few seasons ago that I use with a Ryobi P90 18v drill. I noticed for the first time the effect of extremely cold temperatures like we've had in the SEPA vicinity recently, has on the battery. With a fully charged almost new battery, the power seemed to be gone after 8 to 10 holes through 8" of ice. I had a process for warming the batteries up after they started to get sluggish at my disposal and it made a huge difference. I use a small insulated soft sided lunch tote with a large body size hand warmer pack to keep the batteries warmed up. Don't forget to allow a little air flow in your containment for the hand warmer packs. In temperatures above 25F the same battery drilled over 25 holes through 8+ inches of ice and had plenty of power to spare.Temperature can make a lot of difference in battery performance for sure. ::) :tipup: :tipup: ::)
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Mountain Maggot on Jan 19, 2018, 05:50 AM
Since our ice here is Missouri is relativy thin at 4-6 inches, I’ve trying to do my exercise with a hand auger instead of my Ion.  Right now I am pushing about 3 holes to a beer.  When I run out off beer, it is time to stop drilling.

 :roflmao:
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: bee on Jan 19, 2018, 10:23 AM
Great stuff....so from what I've heard I've concluded a couple things:
1. Many factors need to be taken not account... temp, ice thickness, battery amp, auger size, etc.
2.  I should get a bigger battery, more ah ( I can do that with my drill?).
3. If punching more than a few, and thicker ice, either go smaller auger or to my gas...too much stress on drill.
4. Get a better (more expensive) drill, maybe next Black Friday.

You have to get a bigger battery. That or stay home. Don't fool youself into thinking that tiny battery will work.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 19, 2018, 10:35 AM
Just a bigger battery???  Im a little concerned that pushing that much juice through the drill and the wires meant for that drill may burn it up? 

How much torque are the M18 pushing? 
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 19, 2018, 11:11 AM
Which m18 ?
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Icefisher40 on Jan 19, 2018, 11:12 AM
Milwaukee 4ah - over 40 holes last weekend through 7ish inches of ice and still had half a charge left.

I have 3 of these batteries.

5" auger
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 19, 2018, 11:17 AM
5” auger should be able to drill all day !!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: RyanW on Jan 19, 2018, 08:02 PM
Milwaukee 4ah - over 40 holes last weekend through 7ish inches of ice and still had half a charge left.

I have 3 of these batteries.

5" auger

Milwaukee 2703 5ah battery. 8” Lazer with clam plate. I drilled 35 holes today through 11” of ice and the battery still showed 3 bars out on the ice.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: JiggingIowa on Jan 19, 2018, 09:41 PM
Just a bigger battery???  Im a little concerned that pushing that much juice through the drill and the wires meant for that drill may burn it up? 

How much torque are the M18 pushing?

The increased Ah isn’t going to change the voltage to your drill, all it means is your battery is able to hold a larger charger for lack of better terminology. So in short, you’re not getting any more power, just a longer run time per battery.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: 32footsteps on Jan 19, 2018, 10:09 PM
The increased Ah isn’t going to change the voltage to your drill, all it means is your battery is able to hold a larger charger for lack of better terminology. So in short, you’re not getting any more power, just a longer run time per battery.

^This

Think in terms of gas tank size. Let’s say you are going to buy a 2015 Silverado and have two to choose from. One has a 20 gallon gas tank (2ah battery) and the other has a 50 gallon tank (4ah battery). You plan on driving it from Chicago to Denver. Which one will go the farthest on one tank of gas?
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: DTro on Jan 20, 2018, 08:56 AM
Actually a larger capacity battery WILL give you more power.  Here is proof:

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Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: ActiveTrapChecker on Jan 20, 2018, 08:59 AM
Since our ice here is Missouri is relativy thin at 4-6 inches, I’ve trying to do my exercise with a hand auger instead of my Ion.  Right now I am pushing about 3 holes to a beer.  When I run out off beer, it is time to stop drilling.

 :roflmao:

Thank you for speaking in my terms!!!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Light liner on Jan 20, 2018, 09:07 AM
Rigid 18 v brushless with nills 6"
Depending on ice thickness and hardness.
20" ice probably 35-45 holes.
6" of ice 75-100.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Flint on Jan 20, 2018, 09:36 AM
I have two outings on my new Ryobi brushless with Ion plus 4amp batts. Clam plate 6in Finn Bore. First day started out at zero degrees and went to about 22F. Drilled about 35 holes in ~10in ice and still showed 3/4 of batt at end of the day. Second day started at 22F and ended up at 45F. I drilled ~75 holes for four people in 10-12in of ice. Show half a battery at end of day. Not one over amp cutout. So far I’m impressed with the Ryobi hammer drill.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: bee on Jan 20, 2018, 10:22 AM
Just a bigger battery???  Im a little concerned that pushing that much juice through the drill and the wires meant for that drill may burn it up? 

How much torque are the M18 pushing?

Stop being so hard headed. We tell you what is needed. That battery will not work. Step up or step out.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Jan 20, 2018, 04:37 PM
Ronco drilled 76 holes with his M-18 2704/ clam plate/ 6" eskimo/ 5.0AH battery yesterday thru 9" of hard ice.

Thats pretty F'ing good! ;D
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: gearheart on Jan 20, 2018, 06:20 PM
A lot of folks would like to believe that a little difference in hole size doesn't matter much.  It matters huge. comparing a 6 inch hole to a 8 inch hole is comparing 9 to 16.  Not quite double but close.  The area of the hole is what counts not the diameter.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: RyanW on Jan 20, 2018, 10:13 PM
A lot of folks would like to believe that a little difference in hole size doesn't matter much.  It matters huge. comparing a 6 inch hole to a 8 inch hole is comparing 9 to 16.  Not quite double but close.  The area of the hole is what counts not the diameter.

I don’t think a lot people realize that an 8” hole is almost twice the area of a 6” hole. The physics involved with drilling 8” holes is making me consider getting a 6” and reserving my 8” for tipups. A 6” would work out much better on my clam plate for my uses.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Hardwater Problem on Jan 21, 2018, 04:25 AM
My two cents.  Amp hours (Im told!!!???) mean everything as far as a drill working correctly for an ice auger setup.  it is only second in importance to it being a brushless drill.  My buddy had a six inch auger with sharp blades and he burned up his non brushless drill in two day trip outings.  I run a 20 v Dewalt with 5 amp hour batteries.  I have not counted the holes but its a ton before you have to recharge and I have kept them warm between drilling and left them on the drill exposed and in both situations one battery lasted all weekend on both outings.  Roughly thirty holes both trips.   It only makes sense that if you kept them warm they would perform better, I'm not going to make an argument there.  In the interest of full disclosure, my batteries are relatively new and I make sure they are full charge prior to using them.  In my third season of running a drill/Clam Plate/Mora hand auger bit setup, I have come to learn the hard way that you should not use the hammer option on the drill, it was very hard on the blades of the auger.  Somehow my drill got set to hammer and the blades that previously went two prior seasons only lasted half of this one before I noticed it was on hammer.  I loaned the auger to a buddy and they came back wrecked.  Also he was running it on the third setting.  This is too fast and caused the blades to hop and cut unevenly and he nearly ruined my drill.  Draw your own conclusions but the combo of hammer and too fast did a number on my blades and made my drill smell hot every time it ran after that.  Dewalt replaced my drill and needless to say, I wont be loaning it out anymore.  Long story short get higher amp hour batteries and run your drill at a high torque stting on the dial but not the hammer and use a slow drill speed.  I hope this is helpful as this setup has been flawless up until somebody else used my gear and I am thrilled with the results. 
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: rdhammah on Jan 21, 2018, 05:04 AM
I use 4 AH battery on my Rigid. have never run out. I recharge after every trip. I usually only drill up to 20 holes with a 7" auger

Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: PaddyO on Jan 21, 2018, 03:30 PM
I drilled 20-22 holes yesterday in Lake Simcoe Canada with my Dewalt  DCD996 with a XR 5AH through 22"of good ice with an 8" StrikeMaster.   Battery died on the last hole - more than impressed.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gamalot on Jan 21, 2018, 04:36 PM
I used my new rig today for the first time. 2704 Milwaukee fuel with 5 AH battery on a clam plate with a new SM Laser 7 inch auger going through 9.5 inches of ice. I drilled 10 holes for me and then the guys next to me drilled 18 for them with it. The battery has a push button gauge on it. So it drilled 28 holes with brand new drill, battery and Swedish auger blades and here at home the battery still has a completely full charge in it. I would say I could easily drill 50 holes and still have battery to spare.

Real cold is tough on batteries. It was 45 here today so no issue at all. Probably a different story if it is zero and windy but just keep the battery warm if you need it to last. The 2704 is a wild monster of a drill and I am real glad I bought it. I keep all my cordless batteries in the house when not being used and find they last way longer. I don't think LI batteries take a memory but I do think it is a good practice to run them down to near dead before you recharge them. Keep them warm or not frozen and it should be good all day long for more holes than any man needs.

Gam
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Icefisher40 on Jan 22, 2018, 10:54 AM
How durable are these drills?  Keep it at home if rain is predicted?
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gamalot on Jan 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
How durable are these drills?  Keep it at home if rain is predicted?

Contractors use the better ones all day and every day in all sorts of weather. I would certainly cover it while not in use but a little rain should not be that big of a deal. On the bitter cold days I remove the battery after I drill holes and keep it in the shanty where it should be warmer.

Gam
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: musky8it on Jan 22, 2018, 11:17 AM
With a 6” Nils and 4ah 18v ridgid drill I average around 600-700” of ice on a battery

I also use a ridged 18v but with a 6" auger but don't get as much, maybe 200" so I got a question for you J.Iowa.

Where to you keep your bat when not cutting holes? Do you keep it out in the cold or in an inner pocket to keep it warm.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: musky8it on Jan 22, 2018, 11:45 AM
Model of drill and Amp Hour of your batteries ?

I'm not the OP your asking this ? to but I use a Ridgid 1/2  18v (R860071B). I've looked on the drill and batteries and I don't see any AH. All that's on the bat is LI-ION 27 WH.

I'm no electrician I searched for a Wh to mAh calculator and found one that said 27Wh at 18v equals 1500 mah. this really doesn't tell me anything, it could men 100ah for 15 hours or 50ah for 30 hours.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 22, 2018, 12:01 PM
I'm not the OP your asking this ? to but I use a Ridgid 1/2  18v (R860071B). I've looked on the drill and batteries and I don't see any AH. All that's on the bat is LI-ION 27 WH.

I'm no electrician I searched for a Wh to mAh calculator and found one that said 27Wh at 18v equals 1500 mah. this really doesn't tell me anything, it could men 100ah for 15 hours or 50ah for 30 hours.

If they are the "slim" batteries they are probably 1.5 ah ....mah =milliamp hours
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: deer george on Jan 22, 2018, 12:21 PM
I use a 20v Dewalt with 4amp hr batteries ,using a 5" lazer auger with 18" of ice we drilled 93 holes first time out . The air temp was single numbers when we started that day.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gills-only on Jan 22, 2018, 12:52 PM
I use a 20v Dewalt with 4amp hr batteries ,using a 5" lazer auger with 18" of ice we drilled 93 holes first time out . The air temp was single numbers when we started that day.
.      Damn I hope after that many holes u caught some fish !!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: deer george on Jan 22, 2018, 12:57 PM
Some days are tuffer than others ,funny though on though's type days seems no matter how many places you drill they just aren't biting,?????
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Hardwater Problem on Jan 22, 2018, 01:39 PM
Contractors use the better ones all day and every day in all sorts of weather. I would certainly cover it while not in use but a little rain should not be that big of a deal. On the bitter cold days I remove the battery after I drill holes and keep it in the shanty where it should be warmer.

Gam
Exactly!!!  I wouldn't leave it outside the shack in the rain but a bit on it while drilling should be fine.  I generally pull the batt.'s when I am out there but have only a couple of day trips under my belt where i left them on and exposed to the cold.  They performed well all day but cannot speak expertly on the effects of cold on batteries.  I don't risk it on a weekend trip, I would have to assume the cold would eventually drain them a bit.  Even through three feet of ice in Northern Minnesota, the drill and auger setup only takes a few seconds to cut and it doesn't load the drill to where it seems to be working very hard.  I have had it chug a bit on lag bolts when working with wood, but never on the ice!  I wish I could convey how incredible a setup this is but until you have one and use it, there is no way to accurately explain the efficiency with which it operates.  I rarely use it without at least one guy or sometimes groups of fisherman come over to watch me drill holes as an example.  I can't overemphasize the need for the drill to be brushless though.  You will burn up a regular drill eventually.  I can't believe I ran a gasser for so long! 
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: augergas on Jan 22, 2018, 04:08 PM
M18 5AH battery (brand new) 8"Mora -9f. Drilled 30+ holes in 10" hard ice, had one bar left on the battery power scale.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 22, 2018, 05:06 PM
Stop being so hard headed. We tell you what is needed. That battery will not work. Step up or step out.
Chill out Bee...just asking and getting great advice. Talking to a tech guy at work said he thought a bigger battery on my drill might not handle the extra juice (over heat the smaller wires), thus I thought I'd present this to experts like you. I do get it, I need a bigger battery. Just wasn't sure my drill and bigger battery were compatible. Or do I need to get a new drill with bigger battery. Eventually, that's what I'm going to do.  But before I invested in that, wanted advice, which I've gotten. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gamalot on Jan 22, 2018, 05:50 PM
Chill out Bee...just asking and getting great advice. Talking to a tech guy at work said he thought a bigger battery on my drill might not handle the extra juice (over heat the smaller wires), thus I thought I'd present this to experts like you. I do get it, I need a bigger battery. Just wasn't sure my drill and bigger battery were compatible. Or do I need to get a new drill with bigger battery. Eventually, that's what I'm going to do.  But before I invested in that, wanted advice, which I've gotten. Thanks everyone.

Your tech guy at work is either misinformed or not understanding. He probably thinks you are talking about getting a bigger voltage battery, like going from an 18 volt to a 20 volt in which case he is right. We are telling you to get the exact same voltage battery as the one you now have but with a much larger capacity as in a 1.5 Amp Hour to a 5.0 Amp hour which just holds more charge but delivers the exact same amount of juice but for much longer.

Gam
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: esox_xtm on Jan 22, 2018, 07:50 PM
I just drilled 25 thru 14" with a MKE Mud Mixer and a 5Ah battery. Started to slow down on the last couple and showed one bar. Probably could have gotten a couple/few more.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: slamminsam on Jan 23, 2018, 10:37 AM
Your tech guy at work is either misinformed or not understanding. He probably thinks you are talking about getting a bigger voltage battery, like going from an 18 volt to a 20 volt in which case he is right. We are telling you to get the exact same voltage battery as the one you now have but with a much larger capacity as in a 1.5 Amp Hour to a 5.0 Amp hour which just holds more charge but delivers the exact same amount of juice but for much longer.

Gam
Thanks Gam....got it.  I appreciate your help.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: swnoel on Jan 31, 2018, 10:08 AM
I have a Milwaukee Fuel with 4ah batteries which is about 5 years old now. Just purchased an 8" Kdrill and get about 12 holes 12" of ice  out of each battery! This is not acceptable and I'm sure the batteries are getting tired. Therefore I just ordered 2 9ah batteries that should do the trick!
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Hardwater Problem on Jan 31, 2018, 03:07 PM
I wonder if Dewalt makes a 9 AH battery???  I have never looked!  I just got back from Rush Lake MInnesota and we drilled right around 20 or so test holes before dropping the shack.  Popped the six holes in the house and two tip up holes.  The battery was getting close to spent.  The ice was about 30 inches thick so I was not too upset.  I feel like 28 holes on one battery through 30 inches of ice is very acceptable.  I still had a second battery in my coat pocket. 
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 31, 2018, 03:23 PM
I wonder if Dewalt makes a 9 AH battery???  I have never looked!  I just got back from Rush Lake MInnesota and we drilled right around 20 or so test holes before dropping the shack.  Popped the six holes in the house and two tip up holes.  The battery was getting close to spent.  The ice was about 30 inches thick so I was not too upset.  I feel like 28 holes on one battery through 30 inches of ice is very acceptable.  I still had a second battery in my coat pocket.

YES SIR ....not certain which chargers do and do not work on these

https://www.cpooutlets.com/dewalt-dcb609-20v-60v-max-9-0ah-cordless-lithium-ion-flexvolt-battery/dewndcb609,default,pd.html
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: ifnoiceImnotfishing on Jan 31, 2018, 03:42 PM
I usually get about 40-50 holes per 3ah Dewalt 20v. But sometimes when I am looking for fish I might drill more then 90 holes (got two batteries). So I just put in a 20ah 12v battery with cigarette lighter plug and 2 usbs. Then hooked up a solar controller and 12w flexible solar panel. Got it all mounted in my flipover tent. And bringing a small inverter so can bring my drill wall charger on the ice for those long days. Plus can charge the phone and speaker as well. Heck next time out, I might not come home.  :)
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Lsranger406 on Jan 31, 2018, 03:43 PM
posted once before on the subject but since changed drill. Now im using the news dewalt 991p2 drill with 5ah batteries. Ive got a clam plate and 8 inch kdrill. Last weekend got the drill and went testing. Was on 7-9 inches o ice and drilled 103 holes before battery was totally dead. Noticed the dewalt is a lot smoother drill with the plate and the kdrill over the Milwaukee fuel. The dewalt is a 3 speed drill instead of two. Spins a bit slower in 1st (450rpm) then the Milwaukee(700) is why I think the hole count is so high. This weekend heading to some real thick ice and taking both drills to compare.
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: ifnoiceImnotfishing on Jan 31, 2018, 03:59 PM
Thanks Gam....got it.  I appreciate your help.
Gam is right. Your Tech guy was probably thinking you were talking uping the amps not amp/hours  Uping the amps would not be good on the wiring. But amp hours (ah) is just a measurement of the how long the battery can run until drained. Like if your drill for instance can be used at a constant certain amount of power speed and torque and uses 1 amp at that setting. Then a 3ah battery will run for 3 hours at that level. But since the amp uses goes up and down with speed torque resistance etc. AND say the drill is using 3amps during use then the battery will last 1 hour. AND if the drill is using 6amps during that use then it will only last 30 minutes at that level. (I am trying to make amp hours easier to understand so any of you EE out there can keep the comments to themselves) :):)
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gamalot on Jan 31, 2018, 04:09 PM
My first day out with the new rig I drilled 32 holes in 9 inches of ice. I pushed the fuel gauge button and it still showed 4 out of 5 bars remaining. When I got home I put the battery on the charger which also shows the bars and it took about 5 minutes to be completely full and back to 5 bars. If we get 18 inches of ice by the time the king contest on the 18th is here I have no doubt I can drill 50 holes and still have juice to spare from one battery. Granted this is all brand new with super sharp blades on the auger and I think the age of the battery and the sharpness of your blades does play a big roll in all of this. I did a lot of research before I decided which drill to buy and it was a toss up between Makita, Rigid, Milwaukee and DeWalt. I went with the Milwaukee at $199 for the kit, drill, charger and 2 5AH batteries.

If anyone is looking for a nice SM gas Mag 2000 auger with 8 inch cut I know where one can be had for $175.

Gam
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 31, 2018, 04:28 PM
I went with the Milwaukee at $199 for the kit, drill, charger and 2 5AH batteries.

Gam

That's a good deal on a 2704 ...where/when you find that?
Title: Re: How many holes with one battery do you get?
Post by: Gamalot on Jan 31, 2018, 04:30 PM
Ebay and still there now but I think the shipping brought it up to $229

Gam