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Title: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 29, 2020, 06:47 AM
I have a hummingbird ice 55 and lost the charger.   I m an idiot when it comes to amps and voltage.   Can I charge these batteries with a trickle charge from a regular car charger.  How low does the charger have to go to be safe?
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 29, 2020, 07:15 AM
So I answered my own question with some research on line.  It all has to do with the amp hours.  These chargers are meant for a car battery which are approx. 45 Amp hr. You can do it, but there is a possibility of overcharging.    If I have a 1 Amp charger it would charge at a rate of 1 amp/hour.  So a 9Ah battery completely dead would take 9 hours if charged with a 1 amp charger.  A 3Amp charger would take only 2 hours.
I believe the slower you charge the better it is for the battery.  If someone else could chime in that would be great thanks.  Found a good explanation for dummies here.
https://scooterlifestyle.com/can-i-charge-my-scooter-battery-with-a-car-charger/
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 29, 2020, 07:40 AM
If your location is correct this may fit the bill with a short drive ...whens the last time you charged your battery ? How old is your battery ? ..

https://www.cabelas.com/product/American-Hunter-Volt-V-Outlet-Charger/2843649.uts?slotId=6
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: ice dawg on Jan 29, 2020, 08:11 AM
I wouldn't recommend using more than 1.5 amps when charging a battery of that size. Rule of thumb is to charge your battery for two hours for every hour you used it.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 29, 2020, 08:34 AM
The last time I used the battery was last year.  Its probably 4-5 yrs old.    The hummin bird says its at 70 %.   And I know when I go buy a charger, I'll find the old one....
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 29, 2020, 08:47 AM
The last time I used the battery was last year.  Its probably 4-5 yrs old.    The hummin bird says its at 70 %.   And I know when I go buy a charger, I'll find the old one....

May have reached the life span of your battery...should be charged after each use ..and once every two months or so between seasons .
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: Kevin23 on Jan 29, 2020, 12:53 PM
Pick up a battery tender jr 12v. Your battery should state on the side what the max discharge/charge rate is, most are 1.5-2A. Car/boat chargers are typically 10-20A and 2A on trickle setting. Trickle setting may work, but I wouldnt chance it.

 https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0123-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CITKCE/ref=asc_df_B000CITK8S/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198093653755&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7667818155537939076&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018656&hvtargid=pla-370669784302&th=1
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: eyeflyer on Jan 29, 2020, 07:37 PM
I wouldn't recommend using more than 1.5 amps when charging a battery of that size. Rule of thumb is to charge your battery for two hours for every hour you used it.
How could that possibly be a "rule of thumb" when the amount of draw can vary so much?
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 30, 2020, 08:37 AM
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Kevin23, Pick up a battery tender jr 12v.

After researching this sight, I came across someone recommending the battery tender junior to someone else with my same problem.  Might have been you.   They look nicer than the other chargers. I ordered one on Amazon last night I'll have it today.  Just in time for Sat.  Now all I need is Ice. Thanks.

Pretty sure the battery is still good, even though its at 70% I'm still getting a smidge over 12 volts.  Thanks for every ones input.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 30, 2020, 08:44 AM
After researching this sight, I came across someone recommending the battery tender junior to someone else with my same problem.  Might have been you.   They look nicer than the other chargers. I ordered one on Amazon last night I'll have it today.  Just in time for Sat.  Now all I need is Ice. Thanks.

Pretty sure the battery is still good, even though its at 70% I'm still getting a smidge over 12 volts.  Thanks for every ones input.

Good video about batteries and charging ..9:59 mark makes a good point

Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: ice dawg on Jan 30, 2020, 09:29 AM
How could that possibly be a "rule of thumb" when the amount of draw can vary so much?
Just an old "rule of thumb" from the days when flashers came with a 7 ah battery and a 500 milliamp charger. Probably doesn'f fit in today's world.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 30, 2020, 02:06 PM
Good video...Thanks.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: Fisherman 1 on Jan 30, 2020, 05:24 PM
I have a hummingbird ice 55 and lost the charger.   I m an idiot when it comes to amps and voltage.   Can I charge these batteries with a trickle charge from a regular car charger.  How low does the charger have to go to be safe?

The real rule of thumb is actually C10,  or 1/10 the capacity of a battery.  Yours being 9amp should be charged at .9 amp or 900mAmp.  Now a 1 amp charger won't do any damage, just don't leave it on for more than 8-9 hours, sort of overnight.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Jan 31, 2020, 08:20 AM
I bought the 750mA battery tender junior.  It seems nice I like it, it has the technology to not over charge the battery.    Took about 3 hrs to charge it to full capacity.     All is good now.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 31, 2020, 08:46 AM
Yeah the battery tender jr is a nice smart charger.its a maintainer also and wont overcharge a battery.i leave one connected to my snowmobile battery all year.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: bigfoot86 on Feb 14, 2020, 04:54 PM
If your goin to charge a smaller amp battery, you don't want to high of an output on you charger.  Always safe to go with something like a 2 amp charger or something similar.  I was given a battery tender jr. which which only is a .75amp trickle charger so it takes a while but it does the job. 
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: Evil Tom on Feb 15, 2020, 01:44 PM
The battery will tell you right on it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xJsrDqZ0/IMG-20200215-103523712.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJsrDqZ0)
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: Evil Tom on Feb 15, 2020, 01:49 PM
As long as you don't charge it with more amps than that you'll be fine.I use a 2 amp ship and shore charger Schumacher 2 amp setting with AGM( if that's your battery type).Usually takes 3-4 hrs depending on battery.A trickle charger could take 12-16 hrs.
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: eyeflyer on Feb 15, 2020, 11:01 PM
I picked up one of these seems to work pretty good.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0716HN1Y4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: bigfoot86 on Feb 20, 2020, 08:25 AM
I picked up one of these seems to work pretty good.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0716HN1Y4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's perfect...actually see it's 1.5 amp charge too.  The battery tender junior I have is nice but only .75 amp charge so it takes a little longer to charge a 9 amp battery. 
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: flagup! on Feb 20, 2020, 08:28 AM
Did I read somewhere that slower was better???
Title: Re: charging 12v 9ah battery
Post by: Skywagon on Feb 21, 2020, 06:05 AM
Did I read somewhere that slower was better???

Must have been in a woman's magazine.  :)