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New York => Ice Fishing New York => Topic started by: kmanz on Dec 15, 2017, 10:23 AM
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Wondering if anyone is Ice Fishing yet this year.
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gonna say no as of now
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Thanks for the info.......gotta be close to having at least some of the shallower areas freezing
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Lots of snow in the area.
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took ride around this am
port bay I could see snow covered ice
looking from
west port bay road
look like ice cover up to
about Tompkins point
rest bay open water
Sodus bay
drove east side on lake bluff road East side there
was gray looking ice with no snow on this ice covering both sides
from the bridge, to the north
maybe hundred yards north pass grassy point
ice was out in front of spiegal drive also open water after that
-- keep it up will get after 1st year ?
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Does anyone have an update after the storm this weekend? Thanks in advance
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wouldn't be too worried about the snow. with the wind the way it was....should have blown most of it off...grassy point "should" be alright by this weekend...but would shy away from the north launch untill you see someone else out there.
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Thanks for the info. I'll get ahold of the bait shop later in the week and monitor on here. May try to make a day trip up this weekend
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Really hoping to get out this weekend . Almost has to be good ice in places now with this Artic Blast.
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same here. would be nice to be on sodus for new years!
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You would think,but compound 4 ft of snow and all you get is slush ice like we have in Chautauqua lake!
F4W
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word on the street...guys fishing leroy island. not sure about ice thickness...proceed with caution
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Two huts yesterday on sodus....just a little north of grassy pt....probably came from spiegel dr.....where i fished today ice went from 4-5" yesterday to 6-7" today....was a clear night with single digit temps overnight.
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looks like i know where ill be saturday afternoon lol
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Great News! Thank you for the update!
Can ya tell us how much snow fell on the ice?
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If the snow permits looks like the bay will have some fishermen on it this weekend...Just a reminder folks.. SPUD..SPUD...SPUD! and STAY AWAY FROM THE DOCKS DUE TO THE BLUBBERS. Will probably be joining Friday hope to get out on Third creek if ice and snow permit. Would be nice to hear a snow report hoping it blows off as fast as it snows. Stay Safe and use your head.
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How's the ice looking with the bitter cold we have had the last few days ?
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Great News! Thank you for the update!
Can ya tell us how much snow fell on the ice?
When i left today about 6" snow on top....wasn't blowing earlier but blowing now....hopefully will help.
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Just want to add...don't take my word or antbody elses spud your way out.....spud.spud.spud
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Great News! Thank you for the update!
Can ya tell us how much snow fell on the ice?
Just be careful bud. I'm waiting until New Years.
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Going to take a ride down there Friday morning and see how it looks probably try fishing this weekend. I will report conditions if I do. good luck to everyone stay safe.
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Can someone tell me where some access points are I’m hopeing to drive over New Year’s Day.havent been there in 20 years or so..
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i usually park on land then walk to the water
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Just want to add...don't take my word or antbody elses spud your way out.....spud.spud.spud
Yo John,
Glad you have already locked into the hot bite area bud. I will come over to help you cull them perch out and only leave the small ones for the rest of the guys eh? Check your PM bud.
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One place to access is the South end at Bay bridge bait shop.......Or third creek.
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ill be there tomorow afternoon. try the afternoon/evening bite
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not sure where i wanna fish from...tressel, speigel, bait shop
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We are hoping to head there in the am any one make it there today ?
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Third creek
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Third creek
that may be a good idea too
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Went out at speigle...that hill sucks! Fishin was slow..10 keepers lots of dinks. 6 solid inches at 18 fow
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Good deal. Any one ever have any luck with pike and tip ups there ?
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Went out at speigle...that hill sucks! Fishin was slow..10 keepers lots of dinks. 6 solid inches at 18 fow
the hill is half the fun haha! how was parking?
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How's ice at the tressel ?
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Went out at speigle...that hill sucks! Fishin was slow..10 keepers lots of dinks. 6 solid inches at 18 fow
Sucks even more when you forget to carry your minnow bucket down and it dumps in your sled...!
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Went out at speigle...that hill sucks!
Is the rope still there?
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Yes the rope is there
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Fished at speigel today caught a limit of good perch ice was 6-7" lots of huts and Chanel 8 news was out interviewing guys pretty cool any one else recommend spots on the bay to try in the AM
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If I caught a limit of good perch I would definitely ask for recommendations on somewhere else to go. Trying to save on bait?
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If I caught a limit of good perch I would definitely ask for recommendations on somewhere else to go. Trying to save on bait?
Was thinking the same exact thing.....lol
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Outstanding. Looking forward to a good year:)
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Yea thanks guys lol we just like trying new spots we were in about 15 feet of water looking for around 30
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Yea thanks guys lol we just like trying new spots we were in about 15 feet of water looking for around 30
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Fished at speigel today caught a limit of good perch ice was 6-7" lots of huts and Chanel 8 news was out interviewing guys pretty cool any one else recommend spots on the bay to try in the AM
As the old saying goes "Are you bragging or complaining!" Sorry, had to say it.
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Just a reminder guys you need to take your 1lb propane tanks home with you. Was at the tressel today and picked up a propane tank some one discarded in the parking lot.
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Looking to try sodus for the first time through the ice this week, was hoping to catch a pike but was unsure of where to try for them... any tips or help would be greatly appreciated!
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Looking to try sodus for the first time through the ice this week, was hoping to catch a pike but was unsure of where to try for them... any tips or help would be greatly appreciated!
never heard of anyone targeting pike out of here...I feel that there are better options, like the south end of silver, conesus or Keuka
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Try the northeast corner around the island's. Don't see a lot of people targeting them but they are there!
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never heard of anyone targeting pike out of here...I feel that there are better options, like the south end of silver, conesus or Keuka
Not so long ago, people used to target and catch monster pike around there. I think on the northeast side up by the islands.
Not sure how recent history has been.
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Does anyone know if there is still access from greig street? Used to park on the loop, just havent been up in almost 10 years, any info is greatly appreciated! Tight lines!
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Does anyone know if there is still access from greig street? Used to park on the loop, just havent been up in almost 10 years, any info is greatly appreciated! Tight lines!
The other year I got out on the side street at Maiden Lane and parked on Greig Street. I'd drop my stuff and then go park but it gets tight early there. I have not seen any reports on ice there but I am sure access will be okay still. Good luck.
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I keep seeing posts about the trestle. Are they talking about the bridge at the south end by the bait shop? If not, where is it and where do you park there? Thanks in advance.
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never heard of anyone targeting pike out of here...I feel that there are better options, like the south end of silver, conesus or Keuka
Are you kidding me ICERUGUE? Around the islands on Sodus is some of the best pike fishing around. Big pike and good numbers. Access sucks but if you have a machine, it doesn't matter. I would rather chase big pike on Sodus over Silver or Conesus any day.
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never heard of anyone targeting pike out of here...I feel that there are better options, like the south end of silver, conesus or Keuka
you are 100% correct their are no big pike out there don't even waste your time trying .......... :roflmao:
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NO Perch either .......... :o
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I keep seeing posts about the trestle. Are they talking about the bridge at the south end by the bait shop? If not, where is it and where do you park there? Thanks in advance.
Do a little reading on the reports and conditions page. Might get lucky.
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Well klino2280, thank you very little!
Can anyone else answer my question? where is the safe parking for going there?
Thanks in advance.
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Well klino2280, thank you very little!
Can anyone else answer my question? where is the safe parking for going there?
Thanks in advance.
Jcrow- over on the reports and conditions thread, click on the Sodus bay page. On page 7 you will see the post I made to answer your questions a while ago. Should give you everything you need.
Tight lines !! @) @) :tipup: :icefish: :icefish:
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klino why you gotta be so mean ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you very much! Appreciated!
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Had very good luck over the years on pike in Sodus, Gambell shoots straight, biggest was over 15 lbs. They like the channels and points................ ...had some members give me tips too on set ups and where's as they say......Lots of good overlooked pike waters on the Lake O's bays
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klino why you gotta be so mean ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
TeeBugg- you know I don't like typing stuff twice!!!!
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Anyone catching any pike out there?
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also posted in the reports section, just cross posting it here as well.
Folks,
I am not singling ice shanty folks out here, just trying to get the word out there before these things become a real issue and access gets shut down, and please spread the word or give a gentle reminder if you see someone parking where they shouldn't be.
specifically the area of Maiden lane in the point.
Parking along the road, folks need to use common sense when parking, the complaints are piling up and if folks continue the way they are parking the entire area is going to get shut down for parking on the street.
there should be no parking on both sides of the street anywhere west of maiden lane, today there were trucks parked on both sides of the road, 1 small truck on 1 side of the road and directly across from it a full size truck the road was choked down to barely 1 lane of travel.
The issue is going to be emergency vehicle response with folks parking on the road impeding travel as well as the issue of DOT plow trucks not being able to get through. There is also the issue of peoples mailboxes being blocked, people DO live in those houses and would like to get their mail delivered.
There is lots of public parking up by the ball field and hots point, YES its a walk, but if parking continues as it has the last week or so that is where everyone will have to park. drop off gear at maiden lane go up to the public parking and walk back, if things continue this will be the only option.
second issue is the trash, just putting it out there, we all know the 2 biggest reasons for loosing access is parking and leaving trash behind. we picked up trash off maiden lane yesterday as well as every other day I fished, folks shouldn't have to pick up other peoples trash.
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also posted in the reports section, just cross posting it here as well.
Folks,
I am not singling ice shanty folks out here, just trying to get the word out there before these things become a real issue and access gets shut down, and please spread the word or give a gentle reminder if you see someone parking where they shouldn't be.
specifically the area of Maiden lane in the point.
Parking along the road, folks need to use common sense when parking, the complaints are piling up and if folks continue the way they are parking the entire area is going to get shut down for parking on the street.
there should be no parking on both sides of the street anywhere west of maiden lane, today there were trucks parked on both sides of the road, 1 small truck on 1 side of the road and directly across from it a full size truck the road was choked down to barely 1 lane of travel.
The issue is going to be emergency vehicle response with folks parking on the road impeding travel as well as the issue of DOT plow trucks not being able to get through. There is also the issue of peoples mailboxes being blocked, people DO live in those houses and would like to get their mail delivered.
There is lots of public parking up by the ball field and hots point, YES its a walk, but if parking continues as it has the last week or so that is where everyone will have to park. drop off gear at maiden lane go up to the public parking and walk back, if things continue this will be the only option.
second issue is the trash, just putting it out there, we all know the 2 biggest reasons for loosing access is parking and leaving trash behind. we picked up trash off maiden lane yesterday as well as every other day I fished, folks shouldn't have to pick up other peoples trash.
Thanks reeltime. This is my home fishing location, and would prefer that everyone else treat it the same way.
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Can I park at your house?
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I grew up around sodus and I have never seen so many people parked along the road. An old timer told me this happened years ago and a lot of people were ticketed.
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Will sodus be ok to fish Saturday morning due to the weather we have had ?
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A guy went through at Leroy island today!
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Will sodus be ok to fish Saturday morning due to the weather we have had ?
So spots are shot but some access still. Spud out spud in
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we were at the point and that ice was fine....other spots not so good. definitely stay away from third creek..Id be more concerned about the snow forecast...could be a foot or better on the ice tomorrow. I'll be snow blowing tomorrow...maybe Sunday depending on the snow fall.
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Why can't I find the conditions and reports board iv posted plenty ?
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Yo Klino,
All right my friend. It is time for you to play hooky during the week and go fishing with an OLD friend. I am following this thread and can't stand all the drama. I will not add my comments to the cacophony. I will offer, if you get there early, you get a legal parking spot, further if you go during the week days, you avoid a lot of the drama, so , what say you about hitting Leroy with me during the week?
Boggey
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Be careful around Leroy Boggey. I personally will not fish there until I know it is hardened up good. Maybe the very end of this week.
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Where is there safe access? We have been fishing out of shaker heights but its not safe now
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Where is there safe access? We have been fishing out of shaker heights but its not safe now
The loop is the only place I would get on the ice. It's the only safe ice I see. I was out today by morning should be 8 inches of white ice on top of 7-8 inches of black ice
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Alot of guys out today? And have never been out to sodus was hoping to get there tomorrow anyway I could get an address for the gps or is it easy to find
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Alot of guys out today? And have never been out to sodus was hoping to get there tomorrow anyway I could get an address for the gps or is it easy to find
If I had to guess 300 guys today. And if you know where sodus point is the loop is easy yo find access is maiden lane
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Thanks
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Hey guys
Lots of great info here. You gents that where out today, think it's safe to bring a machine out of state boat launch on Rt. 14?
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Why can't I find the conditions and reports board iv posted plenty ?
At top or bottom of page click on "New York" after the "Ice Fishing Community Thread" and then Click on "Reports and Conditions". Good luck.
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Hey guys
Lots of great info here. You gents that where out today, think it's safe to bring a machine out of state boat launch on Rt. 14?
I'm not going to say yes or no. But I did see a 6 wheeler a 4 wheeler and snowmobile today. There was open watw r yesterday near that launch but guys fishing what was open yesterday 2day
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Have not been on the bay in many years but thinking about a perch trip with a buddy. He is really mobility impaired but his desire is high. Anywhere you guys could recommend that has 100 yard walk or less. I know it is asking a lot and it is surely appreciated.
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Have not been on the bay in many years but thinking about a perch trip with a buddy. He is really mobility impaired but his desire is high. Anywhere you guys could recommend that has 100 yard walk or less. I know it is asking a lot and it is surely appreciated.
Yes the loop or the coal tresell
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Caught this today at sodus. Can anyone confirm species ?
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I would say Whitefish.
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Looks like a Cisco
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Cisco
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Looks like pike bait to me. ;D
I don't know how to tell whitefish from cisco ??? Are there whitefish in Lake Ontario Bays?
jperch
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Cisco. The lips give it away
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OH Poncho.... hahahaha..... OH Cisco.... hohohohoho :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I looked in my fish guide book. It says if the lower jaw extends farther out than the upper jaw it is a cisco, not a whitefish. So, agreed, it's a cisco. Boggey, you are dating us old farts. The Cisco Kid:
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Yo Jperch,
Ah ! the marvels of technology eh? This species is also called a fresh water herring. In the fall, have caught them in the dozens off Cherry island. They show up on your flashers as a dart. Bam.
Boggey
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cisco is the last 5 letters in my long last name in that order...
But I look more like Poncho.... ;D
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Very Nice, Jackie Bushman. Have to agree with the Cisco ID.
2015 on Irondequiot bay I was catching 6-7" round whitefish (had to google search what they were). Found out they had been stocked in 2012, from Chaumont Bay stock. Maybe we get to the see the growth rates this year.
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Nice Cisco! There is an ongoing cisco stocking effort underway. Historically, they used to be very common throughout the Great Lakes. :tipup:
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Maybe, It's Cisco stocking? Or true lake Whitefish? The fish I was catching had no parr markings (round should have? ) but small down turnered mouth,dime bright skin,heavy forked tail just like a whitefish (no teeth) not a smelt. There was stocking, just knot sure what? The fish I saw were not Ciscos. my 2 cents.
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they have been stocking cisco for several years in sodus bay. they also set nets in the bay every fall for the sole purpose of catching cisco to study them.
they are trying to reestablish a self sustaining population so they will become the primary food source for trout and salmon because they retain ( I believe) thiamine and vitamin B which alwives do not retain. Its been a few years since i helped with the stocking and they were telling me the info about the cisco.
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Great info reeltime thanks
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Alewives contain high amounts of thiaminase - which breaks down thiamine in lake trout eggs. Thiamine is needed for developing fry.
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they have been stocking cisco for several years in sodus bay. they also set nets in the bay every fall for the sole purpose of catching cisco to study them.
they are trying to reestablish a self sustaining population so they will become the primary food source for trout and salmon because they retain ( I believe) thiamine and vitamin B which alwives do not retain. Its been a few years since i helped with the stocking and they were telling me the info about the cisco.
According to the reports for the Lake Ontario Unit, which can be found on the DEC website, Sodus received 22,109 ciscos in the fall of 2016. Ciscos stocked prior to that went into Irondequoit Bay as follows: 9000 in 2012, 9000 in 2013, 145000 in 2014, and approximately 90,000 in 2015, with an additional 10,000 released back into Chaumont Bay. The goal here is to evaluate the reestablishment of native prey populations to create a more resilient preyfish population in the lake. If the alewife collapses, right now there is nothing out there to fill the "void." They have also been introducing Bloater chub, another coreginid species; they are stocked off Oswego. The netting that has been done in Irondequoit bay has been to see if any returned. No report has been generated yet, maybe at the State of the Lake Meetings this spring. They do not contain the same levels of thiaminase as alewife; as another reported thiaminase negatively affects thiamin levels in predators, especially Atlantic Salmon and, based on poor returns the last two years after bad winter effects on the alewife, Steelhead.
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I was at maiden lane yesterday and did the normal dink fest with the occasional keeper. Parking was not too bad and I really did not see anyone block the road so that was cool. I did get checked by the game warden when packing up the gear. Not the friendliest guy. All business. Make sure you have legal with your license and fish count. He checked very carefully looking for anything over the limit.
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"2015 on Irondequoit bay I was catching 6-7" round whitefish (had to google search what they were). Found out they had been stocked in 2012, from Chaumont Bay stock. Maybe we get to the see the growth rates this year."
The fish you were catching in Irondequoit Bay were ciscos. Please read my above summary of the DEC reports to date.
According to DEC, round whitefish were last reported from the US side of LO in the 1940's. There is a population around the Bay of Quinte on the Canadian side that fluctuates from year to year. Please also remember that round whitefish are an endangered species in NYS, so the Encon Officers will have a real picnic with you if you are catching them and you keep one. But the Chaumont to Ibay stocking was ciscoes.
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heres a good question...been fishing sodus and doing well on perch, but where can i find some gills or crappies on the bay?
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never caught a crappie in Sodus Bay or Ibay, just Silver Lake, and Honeoye.
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heres a good question...been fishing sodus and doing well on perch, but where can i find some gills or crappies on the bay?
Try the South end ;) ;D
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I was at maiden lane yesterday and did the normal dink fest with the occasional keeper. Parking was not too bad and I really did not see anyone block the road so that was cool. I did get checked by the game warden when packing up the gear. Not the friendliest guy. All business. Make sure you have legal with your license and fish count. He checked very carefully looking for anything over the limit.
Far from a dink fest for me yesterday at Maiden Lane ................you might want to get away from the crowd and up size your bait ;)
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Might be trying the bay this weekend. Do you think it's worth it to bring tip downs or has fishing been good enough jigging not to bother setting them up and chasing them
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Fished yesterday and ran into my old bud Perry T at the loop and we both trekked far from the maddening crowd. Ended up with a limit of jumbos for my grand son Eric and me. I'm sure Perry t did the same as every once in awhile I heard a "Yahoo" coming from his Flip ;D ;D. It was nice fishing with my old bud again.
Boggey
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heres a good question...been fishing sodus and doing well on perch, but where can i find some gills or crappies on the bay?
As was said...south end...walk from davenports and stay on east side....try near weeds 7-10fow
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also posted in the reports section, just cross posting it here as well.
Folks,
I am not singling ice shanty folks out here, just trying to get the word out there before these things become a real issue and access gets shut down, and please spread the word or give a gentle reminder if you see someone parking where they shouldn't be.
specifically the area of Maiden lane in the point.
Parking along the road, folks need to use common sense when parking, the complaints are piling up and if folks continue the way they are parking the entire area is going to get shut down for parking on the street.
there should be no parking on both sides of the street anywhere west of maiden lane, today there were trucks parked on both sides of the road, 1 small truck on 1 side of the road and directly across from it a full size truck the road was choked down to barely 1 lane of travel.
The issue is going to be emergency vehicle response with folks parking on the road impeding travel as well as the issue of DOT plow trucks not being able to get through. There is also the issue of peoples mailboxes being blocked, people DO live in those houses and would like to get their mail delivered.
There is lots of public parking up by the ball field and hots point, YES its a walk, but if parking continues as it has the last week or so that is where everyone will have to park. drop off gear at maiden lane go up to the public parking and walk back, if things continue this will be the only option.
second issue is the trash, just putting it out there, we all know the 2 biggest reasons for loosing access is parking and leaving trash behind. we picked up trash off maiden lane yesterday as well as every other day I fished, folks shouldn't have to pick up other peoples trash.
well you just made the parking worse because you advertised where everyone is going .....just saying
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According to the reports for the Lake Ontario Unit, which can be found on the DEC website, Sodus received 22,109 ciscos in the fall of 2016... The goal here is to evaluate the reestablishment of native prey populations to create a more resilient preyfish population in the lake.
Great info reeltime and Lucky13, you are absolutely correct. I'm a biologist with the USGS/DEC/FWS/Cornell group working on cisco restoration in Lake Ontario. We are always interested to hear from folks who are catching cisco, both in LO and inland lakes. If you get one, please share! There's a thread about it in the main forum.
We've heard from several people who have caught cisco in Sodus this year, as well as Port Bay.
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Saw some sleds out yesterday and checked with some friends that saw sleds and atv's out of third creek. I took a look at third and did see tracks leading out. If you decide to take a machine out of there, it would be better to stay to the right of the creek a good distance before you cut back towards the middle.
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hey trap,that quote you highlighted and commented on was from 2 pages ago and didnt need to be brought up again,you obviously like throwing your "2 cents in "
where not needed and stirring s%%t up!
JUST SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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everybody already knew where the hot spot was. channel 10 was out there. not an issue if people just learn how to park
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Amen
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Hey guys where can I get on the ice with my wheeler? Can I get on at the boat launch off 14?
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well you just made the parking worse because you advertised where everyone is going .....just saying
yeah I'm sure my note caused all the problems, There were pics posted including a map with a big red circle 2 or 3 days prior, and as noted channel 10 news was there and had the story of perch fishing on the 5,530,6,7 and 11 o'clock news.
the issues there had ALREADY escalated, there were already parking issues, there were already trash issues, there had already been all kinds of spot burning posts for days and weeks prior to my posting a note to try and HELP people avoid parking tickets, being towed or vehicles vandalized.
But if blaming me for all the parking issues makes you feel better have at it captain happy.
So I guess everyone can contact you to see where the best place to park is.
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everybody already knew where the hot spot was. channel 10 was out there. not an issue if people just learn how to park
we could do a shuttle bus in different fishing spots and become rich ;D
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yeah I'm sure my note caused all the problems, There were pics posted including a map with a big red circle 2 or 3 days prior, and as noted channel 10 news was there and had the story of perch fishing on the 5,530,6,7 and 11 o'clock news.
the issues there had ALREADY escalated, there were already parking issues, there were already trash issues, there had already been all kinds of spot burning posts for days and weeks prior to my posting a note to try and HELP people avoid parking tickets, being towed or vehicles vandalized.
But if blaming me for all the parking issues makes you feel better have at it captain happy.
So I guess everyone can contact you to see where the best place to park is.
like I said "just saying" truth is I don't want to fight with you and get this thread locked ,I just wanted to be honest with you ,a bunch of us picked up on your post and you added to the crowd ...I'm not blaming you for the actions of others I'm just letting you know we never knew till you posted that,i understand your intentions were good ....I'm just letting you know you did tell a bunch of people there was a bite going on, i know your a good guy and ment no harm I'm just giving you some insight in how lurkers like me look for spots ;D ...............ice not sure what your issue is I never met you I only asked you not to fight and get a thread locked ......
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Luckey,
The down turned mouth was not of a Cisco.
As per DEC Econ, I was not keeping any they were 6" bait fish. Won't even fish Smelt due to my preference not to eat baitfish.
Thanks, for your support.
Still unsure of a possitive fish ID.
"2015 on Irondequoit bay I was catching 6-7" round whitefish (had to google search what they were). Found out they had been stocked in 2012, from Chaumont Bay stock. Maybe we get to the see the growth rates this year."
The fish you were catching in Irondequoit Bay were ciscos. Please read my above summary of the DEC reports to date.
According to DEC, round whitefish were last reported from the US side of LO in the 1940's. There is a population around the Bay of Quinte on the Canadian side that fluctuates from year to year. Please also remember that round whitefish are an endangered species in NYS, so the Encon Officers will have a real picnic with you if you are catching them and you keep one. But the Chaumont to Ibay stocking was ciscoes.
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Not for nothing, but right in town after the fire hall and we’ll before maiden lane is a nice little parking lot that is plowed. There is a flag pole marking the location. That’s where the wheelers and sleds have been parking and taking off from, and if the ice stays tight, that’s where I will take my sled out of if I fish the north end again.
I consider this year to be a bonus year. The perch are finally back and we can access just about the entire Bay by foot or machine. Life is good.
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Thanks for the parking info Pequod ...........I think I will just park there and walk to the loop access ! That will delay me enough to stay a little longer ;D It's a long ride to be done fishing at 10:00AM anyway :o
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Fished yesterday and ran into my old bud Perry T at the loop and we both trekked far from the maddening crowd. Ended up with a limit of jumbos for my grand son Eric and me. I'm sure Perry t did the same as every once in awhile I heard a "Yahoo" coming from his Flip ;D ;D. It was nice fishing with my old bud again.
Boggey
It was a great day for sure Boggey ................. here is how it went for me . It was a most enjoyable walk to our secret Sodus Bay honey hole chatting and catching up .Things sure took a turn for the worst when I got set up and did not mark a thing on my LX6 for about half an hour when suddenly I heard that sweet voice of Boggey belting out an old Beatles classic ! Well like magic my screen came alive with nice marks next thing I knew I looked over and my pail was full of 10"-12" fatties ;D Thanks for the serenade JBOGGEY :clap: :whistle: :bow: :icefish:
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Yo Perryt,
I was indeed fortunate to run into you. It was quite serendipitous as neither planned on going that day. I have not found a place I can not catch perch this year so far. We will have to hit Fair haven as well. Grand son and I had our one and only outing this year as he leaves for Montana this evening. Oh well, be grateful for the time they spend with you and don't lament their absence. Heck I got 10 more grand kids to get out this winter ;D ;D ;D and one Great grand daughter who is old enough to eat hot dogs and sing songs with Pop Pop. Congrats on your newest grand son, Louis . I saw his picture. He is a handsome fellow. You are on your way to becoming a prodigious progenitor. If they are all as healthy as Louis you are going to have a good fishing partner for years to come.
Boggey
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Great info reeltime and Lucky13, you are absolutely correct. I'm a biologist with the USGS/DEC/FWS/Cornell group working on cisco restoration in Lake Ontario. We are always interested to hear from folks who are catching cisco, both in LO and inland lakes. If you get one, please share! There's a thread about it in the main forum.
We've heard from several people who have caught cisco in Sodus this year, as well as Port Bay.
I sent the photos to W. Persall and S. LaPan. If this is a restoration program and you are working on it, would it not make more sense to discourage people from keeping and smoking these ciscoes for a while, rather than telling folks they are good to smoke as you did on the reports and conditions page? I don't think this is a catch grow and retain program! I would think this could be problematic with the density of catchers out on the bay this winter, those big perch they are limiting out on on a daily basis are not going to last forever.
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they should cut the limit to 25..
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they should cut the limit to 25..
why????
there is no limit in jefferson and they have 3 times more perch
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might help from all the fishing pressure the bay is getting.prob more than up there
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you thing ????
but question ...whats the sense in saving fish from fishing pressure and having a great fishery if people can't enjoy it ?
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Because there will be no enjoyment left to be had
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Because there will be no enjoyment left to be had
What? Everyone gets a few meals. Hot bites never last forever . Move on and try something else. The Great Lakes and bays can support this.
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they should cut the limit to 25..
Haha this is funny. I spent Nov and Dec out in my boat at Sodus many trips this year. There were times the schools of perch were 15ft thick on my graph. Read an article this year that there was an estimated 8.5 million perch in the Sodus Bay Area this year. The limits are there to protect the fishery. Lots of research goes into this. The pressure will not hurt the population.
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Touché
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Omg no fish left to be had its lake onterio holy cow i dont think the next 2 generations can wipe out the perch population ::)
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Does anyone remember when the perch fishing at Sodus was downright POOR? It wasn't that long ago!
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I remember. It was the last seven years! I also remember how good Sodus was before that too. I doubt the perch population crashed because of overfishing. More because of the large alewife population and disease than anything else. The two super cold winters we had in 13-14 killed off a lot of alewives and these 9-10" perch are three year olds. Also, the lack of fishing pressure on the bay this summer with the high water has helped future generations. Can we destroy the population in Sodus. I doubt it, but we certainly can put a dent in it. Just hope it isn't a big dent. Time will tell.
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theres good years and bad years ,cycles .....your on a good year i suggest we enjoy it and fill the freezor
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theres good years and bad years ,cycles .....your on a good year i suggest we enjoy it and fill the freezor
agreed
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The two super cold winters we had in 13-14 killed off a lot of alewives and these 9-10" perch are three year olds
:tipup: :tipup: :tipup:
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theres good years and bad years ,cycles .....your on a good year i suggest we enjoy it and fill the freezor
I agree also.
What we fisherman do to the perch population is tiny compared to what the cormorants do.
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The populations do go in cycles. Like Pequod alluded to, forage and disease certainly play a huge factor. Invasive species also play a factor in this as well. Mother Nature always seems to balance it all out for the most part when it’s all said and done
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heard its quite the zoo over there today. might have to make a plan b just in case!
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A practice pict from Wednesday
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I haven't been out in a few years but went to sodus with a friend today. The place was packed! Just unreal to see that many people out on the ice.
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Yep its a zoo..hundreds of shanties...the word is out. Never seen it like this even back in the great days..twice as many people. Get there early for parking no matter were you go out..third creek was parking past the top of the hill on both sides of the parking area. Did ok today but nit great tons of lookers. Go during the week is my advice
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No doubt a zoo! Have never see so many icefishman on sodus bay in my life!
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Does anybody know if bay bridge or Davenport has any large buckeyes or jumbo fatheads? I’d prefer the largw buckeyes.
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I’m guessing 1 of the reasons it’s so busy is social media , back in the the day people had to make phone calls to buds or got in their vehicles and drove to check things out , these days it’s all at your finger tips , but this is just my guess 😉
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I’m guessing 1 of the reasons it’s so busy is social media , back in the the day people had to make phone calls to buds or got in their vehicles and drove to check things out , these days it’s all at your finger tips , but this is just my guess 😉
That, and the fishing has been overall poor the past few years, so folks are salivating to get back at them.
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This discussion reminds me of an incident a number of years ago. 10 or 12 at least. IceShanty was relatively new back then. I was unloading my stuff in a parking lot at Sodus and wearing my IS hoodie. 2 old farts started bashing me for being one of "those guys". They went on and on about how the website had ruined the fishing on Sodus. "Too many guys fishing" they said.
I asked them how they knew about the site.......they were members. :-\ I didn't tell them who I was.
But, I went out and caught a bunch of perch anyway.
Fish populations are cyclical in any body of water. It's no one's fault.
Rg
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The perch population on Lake Ontario is indeed irregularly cyclical. I am (almost ;D) the same age as RG and have lived on Lake Ontario almost all of my life. Same for my father and grandfather before me. I have seen the perch population rise and fall many times. There were few cormorants, if any, when I was a kid, no internet. The lake was more fertile (dirty) than it is now. I have thought about this quite a bit over the years, I think it is extremely complex as to the factors that control their population levels. I used to SCUBA dive in the lake quite a bit and can tell you that some years the perch fry were thick some summers and other years not so much at all. I have never really heard any good explanation from the biologists. I think the food base has certainly changed from when I was a kid. Back then scuds were plentiful in the seaweed that covered the rocks and perch and other panfish gorged on them. The mussels have cleared the water, drastically lowering the seaweed and scuds. Now we have gobys. On the other hand, the situation on Conesus Lake seems different. Again when I was a kid the perch fishery was outstanding. The perch population crashed decades ago and has not recovered at all as far as I know. I have heard some explanations for this such as introduction of alewives, but I really don't know. Too bad though! jperch
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Bill Abraham, who retired a few years ago from his position as Region 8 Fisheries Manager, wrote a paper that has become a classic in Fisheries Biology, in which he detailed the relationship between alewife and perch. Based on Mr. Abraham's work, if the alewife population is low, or the perch spawn hatch early and grow large enough before the alewife come in to spawn, there is high survival of fry, and subsequently, a good year class of perch to grow to adulthood. If the alewife population is large, and/or they come in early to spawn, the alewife are capable of nearly wiping out an entire year class of perch in the fry stage. Bad winters like 13-14 and 14-15 have a very negative effect on Alewife populations, and the phenomenal perch fishing being experienced at Sodus may well be a result of great survival of fry from the springs following those two winters. When Bob Lange was Lake Ontario Manager, and summarized the Fisheries Congress held in Rochester a number of years ago, he also pointed to this relationship, and said that DEC would watch the perch populations as an indicator of problems or stress in the alewife population. The recent adjustments in salmon stocking were based on trawling data saying alewife populations in LO are suppressed, and the great perch fishing confirms that. If last year's strong year class of one year old alewife comes into spawn when they can still feed down the perch fry, you'll see a downturn in perch population in a few years, and that might be evidence that Salmonid stocking could be increased again.
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If pictures are worth a 1,000 words .. I'd say ..
Keep it simple ..
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Be mobile .. don't give up !
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Be selective ..
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Very good Post Lucky!
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Very good Post Lucky!
Thank you, sir. I neglected to include that when I was a kid, Conesus Lake was considered one of the finest yellow perch lakes in the western hemisphere, especially in winter. Someone saw fit to introduce alewife (this was not DEC but one of the " bucket biologists" who have ruined so many New York State waters with their superior knowledge!), and within a few years, the perch fishery collapsed, and it has never recovered. Over the years DEC tried stocking Rainbow Trout, which did not take despite the deep cold holes in the middle of both parts of the lake, Walleye, which are doing well, but, from what I've seen, are hard to catch except right after the season opens, and most recently , the Tigers. The reports of larger gills, and more keeper perch mixed in, might indicate that they have finally found a combination of predators that are starting to control the alewife in that lake. I should probably give the ice fishermen some of the credit on the gills, when I first started on this site they were small, now they are getting up to Honeoye size!!! ;)
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Yo Lucky, RG and Jperch,
Interesting suppositions all. Lets face it, there is a hand at work here much greater than we can comprehend. I love all these flawed studies. Don't get me wrong, honest attempts to understand the reason 's why we have good years and bad years . I have even interposed a few my self, but as the years go by I am more reluctant to question the reasons and quite content to enjoy the rich or meager perch catch rate as it comes.
When the perch are plentiful as this year, once I have filled the freezer and delivered care packages to all my old shut in friends and family, I turn my quest to honing my skills on other species such as eyes and pannies. In short i am glad this thread has turned a bit more academic than adversarial. But shame on you Jperch, no one is as old as that "Old Fart" RG. In experiece at least, haha ;D ;D ;D
Boggey
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Lucky. Thanks for bringing up Bill Abraham. I knew a few people that worked with him. Exactly correct. Interesting, the alewife population also crashed in Conesus and Keuka during those two cold winters. Perch are back in Conesus according to some DEC summer research and personal experience. But, not in any great numbers. Keuka lake is another story. Even though the alewife population crashed, the lakers and just about everything else prey on baby perch. I know the salmon guys don't like to see low alewife populations but hopefully the ciscoes replace them as a forage base.
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Pequod,
I knew Bill a little, and got to speak with him about aspects of the fishery on a number of occasions over the years. For over 30 years, I have fished Fourth Lake of the Fulton Chain for a couple of weeks in late July-early August when on family vacation, not the best time for fishing but good for the kids. For a couple of years we did extremely well on Landlocked Salmon in the early morning, trolling with lake clears and small minnows, and watching for surface swirls to chase after. The fish we kept were loaded with baby perch, no more than an inch long. I told Bill about this, and he immediately responded that the smelt population in the lake must have been in trouble as Landlocks will focus on smelt totally if they are there. Speaking with locals who checked the streams during the limited dipping season, I confirmed that they had been catching very few smelt during the years we were enjoying this bounty on the surface. After a couple of great fishing summers, the smelt came back. The last 10 or so years, even though we see the raindrop pattern of the schools of baby perch on the surface, we rarely catch a landlock on top, the few we have caught come out of the thermocline on Sutton 44s run behind a downrigger, and they contain smelt the same length as the 44. Bill definitely knew his stuff!
NOG, not denying the hand of the Greater Power in all this, but if you fall in the lake and pray for help getting out, don't reject the rope thrown by the Coast Guard because God will save you. Sometimes he works in mysterious ways, and sometimes he just gets one of the rest of us to help out!!!! :) :) :)
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Has anybody ever fished the northern side of the point in the winter months at all?
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NY FISHING AND REPORTS and Conditions is not coming up under the New York heading?and ideas of why I can not see the reports and conditions thread?I would like to go out of the Maiden Ln toward Newark island on Thursday morning at O dark 30,and would prefer not to bring the bathing suit.Thanks
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I think you have to make at least 3 posts!
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Has anybody ever fished the northern side of the point in the winter months at all?
I would not recommend ever walking on the ice on the north side of the point. That area is too susceptible to fractures from wave action. It can have 6 inches of ice on it and 3 hours later its open water.
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anybody going off the trestle today or anytime soon? if she holds good i may make a trip over saturday afternoon. been doing well in that area
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looking for an answer to the same question. how is the ice conditions ? also does anyone know how to get ahold of the lodge ? we stayed there for years haven't been able to get ahold of anyone ...
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looking for an answer to the same question. how is the ice conditions ? also does anyone know how to get ahold of the lodge ? we stayed there for years haven't been able to get ahold of anyone ...
get a few more posts and you can access the reports and conditions boards. guys are out there today i know that, but dont have an accurate report since im not there lol
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Id like to try the trestle too.......like it out there a bunch.
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Id like to try the trestle too.......like it out there a bunch.
ive had decent luck this season out there. gotta move around and find em but thats the name of the game
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is the trestle the thing that looks like a grain elevator?
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we were new to the bay at the time and we were not having much luck bumped into an old timer at the corner store with a bucket FULL.. asked for advice and we laugh to this day he said ... rosie reds by the old tressel son ! he wasn't wrong haven't been back in 4-5 years had some bad ice on a trip and a few guys went through that year !
Dilly Dilly,
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Do you guys think the ice is still safe in Sodus? I’m headed out that way...
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Do you guys think the ice is still safe in Sodus? I’m headed out that way...
Yes...Check the reports and conditions page. I posted a detailed report on there 2 days ago and it has been cold since then. :tipup:
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Thanks, I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong but I cannot find the reports and conditions page
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Scroll all the way down the page and look for a drop down menu near the bottom right had corner. Here is a link in case you can't find it. Good luck!
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?board=50.0
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Scroll all the way down the page and look for a drop down menu near the bottom right had corner. Here is a link in case you can't find it. Good luck!
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?board=50.0
You have to click on "New York" first and then the 3 New York options come up and you click on "Reports and Conditions" one.
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Hey guys looking to come up for the day with my recently retired father was looking for a good parking spot where I won't get myself in trouble if sombody could be so kind an point me in the right direction much appreciacted
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Thanks onebucket!
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Been hearing a bad rumor about someone going thru on Sodus Bay. anyone hear anything about that
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under reports and conditions Iceralph posted that a person went through at 10:30 AM SAt. by Eagle Island in the Connelly's cove area. look it up!
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I heard a bubbler????
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yes a machine went in south side of eagle island, it was a good thing there were 2 younger folks with the driver of the machine and they were able to get him out. as trap said it was a bubbler issue, supposedly a dock bubbler tipped over and was blowing water out from the dock and made a weak spot off shore. the machine went through in roughly 20 foot of water.
the driver has years of experience on the ice but with the snow cover the bad area could not be seen. accidents can happen to anyone and even with the extreme cold and all the reports of 10-12 inches of ice on the bay there is NOT safe ice on the entire bay.
Be safe, be prepared and be helpful if you see someone venturing somewhere they shouldn't be.
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I was fishing in 10 ft. of water off the SE corner of Eagle on Thursday and the ice was only 7 inches and NOT good quality with no bubblers around! You need to be extra careful when these thaws come producing lots of water on the ice and flowing water. There is at times a north to south current along the eastern shore of Eagle which can erode ice more quickly.
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Couple of buddies went out of 3rd creek today. Took the walk to 30fow and did terrible. They moved again a bit deeper and still very slow. Was anyone else out today? How'd you make out? I'm thinking of getting out this weekend but don't want to make the drive for some dinks and a slow day.
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Hey guys looking to come up for the day with my recently retired father was looking for a good parking spot where I won't get myself in trouble if sombody could be so kind an point me in the right direction much appreciacted
Read back in the thread, plenty of information on parking and access points as well as the pros and cons of each access point
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Jcrow, that's fishin'. you never got skunked? :o :o
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I took a ride around the bay this afternoon. Must be the "snow storm" scared everyone away. I only saw one shanty out there.
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Jcrow, that's fishin'. you never got skunked? :o :o
Ha! Like everyone else who fishes I have had bad days and the days that make you want to come back.
We've been going to Irondequoit and had the same kind of luck there. You wade through number of dinks to get through to some keepers. The reason for asking is I can take a 10 minute drive to Irondequoit or a 50 minute drive to Sodus for the same thing. I guess I was looking for a great reason to take the drive.
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I talked to a few fisherman this morning at bay bridge they said the bit was pretty slow this mornin.
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Heard rumors of walleyes being taken periodically ???
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hey guys, wondering how the ice is on Sodus lately - seems like people have still been out
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Just need to be careful around the islands and loop area !
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A number of people. Only 3 real accidents. One off Leroy where a guy that lives there went thru gas or something from the weeds they were only a couple feet from hole to remove the four wheeler just a freak incident. And the one because of the bubbler. Then the last one was between 2 of the islands I heard that never freezes good. The rest were idiots that knew better then being where they were or running a machine where they were.
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I’m About to head to third creek.is the parking as crazy there during the week as it is on he weekends?
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How many topics of sodus do we need. ???
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I’m about to head to third creek soon.is the parking as bad as the weekends during the week?
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Anyone catching pike at Bay bridge or third Creek?
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How many topics of sodus do we need. ???
Considering that there are guys who post on the reports and conditions page asking for ice thickness and it has been posted 4 posts earlier ;), how many is too many? ;D ;D ;D
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so...............how thick is the ice????? :roflmao:
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Ya only has to read 3 back for Sodus! ::) ::) ::)
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=13683.480
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I agree
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I went out of third creek Wed 9 to 2:30 and only brought home 12 between 10 11 inches. Must be the slaughter is over, only about 2 dozen people fishing. I parked right across from the access. I imagine it is getting pretty sloppy out there now!
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ice check anyone?
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Was out today is is fine just watch out for holes washing out .
Bite was good
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If this is a restoration program and you are working on it, would it not make more sense to discourage people from keeping and smoking these ciscoes for a while, rather than telling folks they are good to smoke as you did on the reports and conditions page?
That's a valid concern, but right now we don't think ice fishermen will make too much of a dent in the cisco population. The stocking program that USGS has had for a few years is mostly experimental (to see if stocking will work in the first place), not to put a ton of fish out in the lake for people to catch, so the ones folks are catching are most likely wild fish. The cisco population has been doing better in the last few years, after a couple good year classes in 2013/2014. Personally, I'm excited to see more people interested in cisco and knowledgeable about what they are catching - many people have no idea what they are! Also, cisco are not managed as a sport fish now, so there is nothing wrong with people keeping and eating them. Releasing them is also perfectly fine - completely up to you! Right now, I think raising awareness and appreciation for cisco is more important than restricting catch - if more people are interested in catching & eating them, then they will be a higher priority for future management decisions.
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I live up the hill from Irondequoit Bay, worked in water quality management of the bay for many years before I retired, and provided data to Jim Johnson when the cisco program was initiated. While the program was indicated as experimental, the long term objective (and I've heard this from NYSDEC as well) is to establish a viable (and native) alternative to alewife. In 30+ years of monitoring on the bay, I never heard of a cisco being taken, the only discussion of the fish was Bill Abraham, retired Region 8 Fisheries Manager, referencing them as historically important in embayments along the North Coast. None of the biological surveys done on the bay over the last half century+ turned any up, they were considered extirpated. So unless the remnant population in Chaumont Bay is coming back strong by itself, and repopulating the rest of the lake, I have to think these fish are part of the less than a million that have been stocked since the program began. I'm only saying that it might be more desirable in relation to the program objectives to express what the goal is and indicate that it might be better to NOT target these fish (and there have been a number of posts of folks asking how to go after them specifically this winter, since this discussion began back in January), educate folks on what they are, and wait until they are a little stronger (and I have seen no reports on the project so far) before getting people all excited to fire up the smokers. They will certainly get plenty of stress from the salmonids without putting an additional stress on them before they become more numerous.
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We caught a Cisco in Irondequoit Bay this winter for the first time. Nice one too, over 12 inches. We put it have though. One hardly seems worth the effort to smoke.
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Cisco have been naturally reproducing in Chaumont Bay for many years. This is the population where the original broodstock for USGS/Jim Johnson's stocking program came from, and they continue to source broodstock from this population every fall. USGS marks all of their stocked fish with a chemical mark that can be seen in the ribs/earbones under a microscope, which is how they know if they are recapturing any stockies. Last year they caught their first stocked fish - every other cisco checked has been wild.
If anyone does catch a cisco and keeps it, I know that USGS would appreciate taking a look at the earbones & ribs to see if it was one of their stocked fish. Marc Chalupnicki at USGS Tunison would be the person to contact about that. If you choose to release it, that's great too. One more to spawn in the future.
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What was the rationale for stocking ~10,000 into Chaumont Bay in fall 2015? When I said "remnant" I was referring to the fact that Chaumont is the only place where any significant native population remains on the US side of the lake, historically there were strong populations lakewide. Do you have any idea when a report on this program will be released, Jim has retired, some of us are worried that his programs could retire with him? Maybe we'll hear something Monday night at the SOL.
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Anyone have an idea if this will lock up by New Years going to be heading up to Rochester area from the 30th-2nd wondering if there would be a chance at bringing the ice gear up
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Anyone have an idea if this will lock up by New Years going to be heading up to Rochester area from the 30th-2nd wondering if there would be a chance at bringing the ice gear up
Will keep you posted have warm up this week a few days with rain
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Drove around sodus yesterday between bay bridge and davenport's to grasp point is locked in third creek is starting couple more weeks we should be good 2 go
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Hit the ice yesterday 5 1/2 inches out in front of 3rd creek the bite was kinda slow but we ended up keeping 19 perch all 12in or longer.
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Great job, how much snow did you guys get?
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Wow nice job.
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Hit the ice yesterday 5 1/2 inches out in front of 3rd creek the bite was kinda slow but we ended up keeping 19 perch all 12in or longer.
how far out did you go to find them?
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Id say well over a foot closer to 2ft lots of big drifts on the bay today when i drove by.
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We just stuck with the crowd we hadn't been out yet I'd say we were maybe 100 to 150 yards past the point right in the middle. 15 ft deep. Usually we go way further out to 30 ish or even take the trek out to the west side of newark island but I'm not into the polar plunge so we played it safe
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Any body been out since the little warm up and wind? Thinking about bringing my boy tomorrow for our first trip of the year.
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fyi... the New York Reports and Conditions page has more up to date conditions for Sodus Bay.
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Any body been out since the little warm up and wind? Thinking about bringing my boy tomorrow for our first trip of the year.
lol..there was about 200 shanties out of third creek. Plenty of ice not bad walking. Came home with 31 10-11 inchers..have at it you will have fun
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I was on of the many today out at Sodus bay. Could of sworn I heard a drone fly by. I would sure like to see the video of that if anyone post it online
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Was out Monday it was absolutely gorgeous out we came home with 75 all over 10 and quite a few 13s and 14s
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Well first trip out on sodus Friday went over by skippers right across from the south point of the island prolly 30 or so guys out the ice was 4" bit kinda sketchy and walked off about 1030 after a measly 3 perch only 1 that was 11 inches. I would definitely wait awhile after that rain