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Montana => Ice Fishing Montana => Topic started by: RuralMT on Jan 22, 2020, 11:15 AM
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Good morning all. I'm sitting here on my break contemplating a recent, impulse purchase made after coming across an online sale on IS thread. I tend to be a penny-pincher, but after being upbraided by my tournament partner for only owning 2 rods, I've begun to increase my arsenal. Accordingly, I decided to try out 13 Fishing's Descent which is paired with an inline reel.
I like the action of the rod, but I got to thinking...why doesn't MFish like the inline set-up? Yes, this thread is slightly tongue-in-cheek/light-hearted in nature, but I am curious, as this is the first rod of its kind that I've fished. In your mind, what are its virtues and flaws?
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An inline will never match the drop rate of a spinning reel, I'm not a fan of the drags, there's really no need to reinvent the wheel, and for most anglers controlling a spinning reel is second nature, where as the inlines take some getting used to and you will struggle for a bit.
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An inline will never match the drop rate of a spinning reel
Sounds like a nightmare with a tiny ratfinkee, at least over depth. Sounds like it will be a tool limited to shallow water scenarios.
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Like I mentioned, the rod is definitely worth trying out. I might replace the reel but figured I'd try out the inline and see. Problem is the reel is zip-tied on. Like MFish intimated in a thread on the community board, I'm leery of the lack of a reel seat.
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Like I mentioned, the rod is definitely worth trying out. I might replace the reel but figured I'd try out the inline and see. Problem is the reel is zip-tied on. Like MFish intimated in a thread on the community board, I'm leery of the lack of a reel seat.
Nip those zip ties off, that's tacky and only there to keep people at the store from steeling the reels. Use athletic tape, hockey tape or electrical tape to seat your reel. I prefer a rod without a seat and always use electrical tape.
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Agree - gravity doesnt magically get stronger when you are using an inline reel as many insinuate and the drags are inferior ( not an issue for pan fish though). Spinning lures can easily be mitigated but iver never seen it be enough of an issue to have to worry about it. They are also hard to hold and much more prone to malfunction from ice build up if outside.
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Use athletic tape, hockey tape or electrical tape to seat your reel. I prefer a rod without a seat and always use electrical tape.
I’ve switched over to the silicone tape and love the stuff but any of those choices will ensure a rock-tight reel. Never cared for the shrinky-dink sleeves since they require periodic re-heating when they loosen.
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the drags are inferior...Spinning lures can easily be mitigated but ive never seen it be enough of an issue to have to worry about it.
How different, mechanically speaking, are they from fly rods? They look awful similar, and now that I think about it, I rarely use the drag on any of my rods while fly fishing. I fight them with the line in my opposite hand, applying pressure by squeezing he line or releasing to accommodate a big run...tough proposition with 2 lb. mono in sub-freezing temps, haha.
(not an issue for pan fish though)...Spinning lures can easily be mitigated but iver never seen it be enough of an issue to have to worry about it.
This is why I bought it to begin with (chasing perch in shallow water and to mitigate line twist/spin). I'm going to have my ice-fishing Yoda try it out and see if his catch rate improves with the lack of spin.
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Use athletic tape, hockey tape or electrical tape to seat your reel. I prefer a rod without a seat and always use electrical tape.
I’ve switched over to the silicone tape and love the stuff but any of those choices will ensure a rock-tight reel. Never cared for the shrinky-dink sleeves since they require periodic re-heating when they loosen.
Thanks for the suggestions. Do you have any wobble or play develop over time with tape?
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Thanks for the suggestions. Do you have any wobble or play develop over time with tape?
No, I have rods with reels that have been taped on for close to 10 years
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Why bring a spoon to a knife fight
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Why bring a spoon to a knife fight
This seems to be the general consensus. I bought the combo for the rod and figured I'd give the reel a shot before ditching it. But goodness, not one proponent is speaking up for them. Thanks for the responses fellas, might have to chalk it up to a $35 lesson in reading the forum more, haha.
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In order to use the in-line properly one must master the "Princess Grip". ;D
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But goodness, not one proponent is speaking up for them.
I think if you posed your question in parts of the country with legit shallow water panfish populations (which rules out the vast majority of MT), you might receive more positive reviews...BUT I still have a difficult time seeing how an in-line is ever a better option. There’s a lot of similarity with the Tenkara fad.
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There’s a lot of similarity with the Tenkara fad.
Interesting point. A tenkara rod (at least my take on it) is a niche tool for small mountain streams, like those in Japan where it originated. Bringing one to the lower Clark Fork would be like bringing a plastic spoon to that knife fight.
In order to use the in-line properly one must master the "Princess Grip". ;D
I'm not sure this is something I should be googling at work, haha!
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Sounds like a nightmare with a tiny ratfinkee, at least over depth. Sounds like it will be a tool limited to shallow water scenarios.
Just a comment, not trying to sway anybody. I fish inlines and spinning reels side by side. Same jig same number of spikes same test line. Inside a pop up or flip over. Disagree that the inline is slower. Some folks like them some folks hate them. Just me but I don’t buy combos seems like one of the components is always lacking. Also what is shallow water to you? I use them in water up to 30’. Right tool for the job depends on the situation. Some folks love rods without a reel seat, I don’t care for them. Only thing I have against inlines is I have a harder time with them if I have gloves on. Like I said I use them in a warm environment so that is normally not an issue. Just my .18 cents.
Keep it safe! JDL
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I have a frabil that came with a short or long mounting stem.
The long work good with gloves on.
Still funky to use with the drag or lack of.
Gets getting use to.
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Also what is shallow water to you?
For me, in MT, it’s a subjective 20 feet. Where I grew up fishing ‘gills in the Midwest, it was 10 feet.
I could use a Tenkara rod to fish the Big Mo but I don’t. I could putt with a driver but I don’t. I’m just curious why someone pulls an in-line out of the tool bag versus choosing another type of reel. Are there any advantages?
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I have a Black Betty Freefall on a TUCR Bullwhip, and my son has a Ghost Freefall on a Tickle Stick. We absolutely love them for perch and crappie and have had no problem landing walleye, pike, or trout with them. Being able to quickly and easily drop the spoon or jig right back onto a school of fish while stopping it exactly where we want in the water column has definitely upped our catch rate.
To each, his/her own.
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I have a few that I use for crappie and perch, and they are good for that. It is a little frustrating having to wait for a really small jig to drop in say 30' depth. Bigger fish rods all have spinners on. The first fish I caught on a Black Betty Freefall was a 7+lb. walleye that absolutely slammed the jig. I never even saw it on the finder it came in so hard. Having never used it before, the first thing I did was bump the trigger which freespooled the reel! I thought it broke my line or something, until I realized what had happened, and amazingly it was still there! I'm pretty careful about that trigger release now.
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we like the quality inlines for their light weight and smooth drop of the line here in n .maine . i use mine mostly for smelts and panfish but have landed whitefish, trout and landlocked salmon on mine. its what your comfortable with. open water I'm a spinning reel person. the better ones have a good drag.