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Al- Seymour WI | Posted At 19:29:57 07/18/2000 Next time fishing tipups with shiners for northern, try hooking your shiners farther back by the tail. After a season long test, my fishin partners and I concluded that we lost fewer northern this way vs. the old hook em behind the dorsal fin way. Try it. |
Chuck | Re: Hooking shiners tip (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 13:38:22 08/23/2000 I have also found that in addition to not losing as many pike, hooking them farther back cause the chub, smelt,or minnow to struggle a bit more, and that's gotta be good for the old pike's ego! Good fishing to you. |
Nolan Male | Re: Hooking shiners tip (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 16:57:38 10/10/2000 This tip works awesome. When hooking the minnow or other baitfish further back they struggle more and they stay alive longer!! |
Gary |
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Posted At 21:14:19 12/03/2000 tail hooking with a sweedish pimple hast to be the deadlyest rig for just about any fish |
opus |
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Posted At 18:12:10 12/09/2000 Using two treble hooks on the larger shiners seems to catch more Northern Pike. The stinger hook is hooked through the top lip of the shiner to allow breathing... When the Northern takes the bait and runs you don't have to wait for him to stop and swallow the bait, you can "sting" him right away. |
Allan Butler |
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Posted At 12:52:01 12/12/2000 The two treble hooks are a variation of a Quicke Strike Rig, used by the English for many years for their pike fishing. The forward hook is more often placed behind the head of the shiner, but what ever works for you. The second hook(tail hook)does not even have to be snelled on, it can "float" on the line, letting you adjust it to what ever size bait you are using. With this rig I lip hook most fish and when I pick up the line, if I feel a fish 99.9% of the time I hook the fish. I landed a 9.9 lb. Lg. Mouth using this rig that I am sure that I never would have hooked other wise. Tight Lines! |
bobo |
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Posted At 17:56:38 12/18/2000 PUT the trouble hook under the backbone, neak the back of the shiner. |
Rick |
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Posted At 19:31:17 12/30/2000 Thanks for the in put i needed this. i have been having a hell of a time. i'm on lake st'clair. lot of perch though. |
Tony Stevens |
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Posted At 01:47:35 12/31/2000 Hey man, thanks for the hooker shining tips.I mean shiner hooking tips. Sorry. I'm gonna have to give the one idea a try and hook it further back on the bait. Thanks and I'll let you's know the outcome. |
Burbot |
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Posted At 17:33:46 12/31/2000 Hooking farther back means the hook is more likely to grab the tough outer lip when you set the hook. This is really important if you're not using a leader. Less shear offs and a good hold. |
Mace |
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Posted At 19:03:27 01/08/2001 One of the biggest reason hooking the bait in the lip works, is because Pike and Bass usually hit head on, or slightly from the side at the head. I recommend 1 hook in the lip, and one at the tail. Use a 5-8" 18# test steel leader. The leaders are light, but strong. |
Andy O'Malley |
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Posted At 11:37:23 01/23/2001 I also use a braided steel leader but with the ones that I use you cannot tie a regular not so I twist it to my trouble hook and then to a swivle connected to my tip up line. I was reluctant to try it but I have caught 10 lb plus Northerns with it. |
Kevin Burns |
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Posted At 12:22:07 01/28/2001 I hook my minnows just in front of the dorsal fin. This works well for me and my brother. If you want minnow to be more active try sliding sinker up the string a foot. |
Dan In VT |
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Posted At 11:38:48 01/31/2001 I agree completely with these tips! My first run of the day this past Sun. was on a large pike that never moved when I hit him. I set the hook, he was there, then he was gone. I got the minnow up and the leader was twisted like a pretzel and the hook was now buried in the minnow's gut. It was jerked straight down. If I had hooked it shallower and closer to the tail, instead of the dorsel, I think I would have buried the hook in pike lip instead of minnow belly. Great website! Here's to the hard water! Good luck. |
TW |
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Posted At 16:53:50 02/02/2001 The treble hook method is great when dead baiting off the bottom...this is a quick strike rig |
jeff WI |
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Posted At 00:23:34 10/10/2001 Great website! I use treble hooks when fishing live bait for pike/walleye with tip-ups. I get my share of flags; but I often ask myself "why do I use single hooks in summer and treble hooks in winter?" I would never use a treble hook under a float in summer. Maybe someone outhere can help me. Would I get more flags if I went to a single hook on my tip-ups? And what about colored beads above the leader,is this a secret weapon? someone please respond |
mitch |
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Posted At 10:33:15 10/26/2001 I am going to try that and se how it works |
Ben |
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Posted At 19:40:39 12/16/2001 I have found that if you do hook them in tha back be careful about the back bone if you hit it it will paralize the fish and you wont see that untill its under the ice. Causing the fish not to move very much. Carful too about the air pocket (i cant think of the right name) just below the spine. If it gets hit it could cause the minnow to float upside down. but the pocket runs usally right uner the dorsal fin and isent very big. i tr to hook it in the lips or slightly behind the dosal fin and down about 1/8in. |
Greg |
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Posted At 18:23:49 01/01/2002 I have found that fishing with big shiners about 5 to 6 inches have a great effect on northern pike. Start out by bitting or clipping the tail on the shiners. This gives the shiner a look like its struggling. Set the tip up just below the ice and check them every half an hour. Sit back and watch the gators come to you. And remember a bad day fishing is better then a good day at work. |
Eric18 |
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Posted At 20:08:19 01/07/2002 I fish Lake Superior in the bays, and am out almost every day. I fish anywhere from 2 feet to 15 feet of water. I was never a big pike fisherman...too many "Y" bones. I usually target walley and perch. I hook a 2 inch shiner through the head with a good sized red or chartruse teardrop. In the depths I fish, my bait is easily visible. Allowing me to put any action on the bait that I want. I jig the shiner rapidly just a few feet below the ice, depending on how deep I am fishing. I make a wiggling motion that creates a lot of flash. Pike seem to cruise near the bottom and attack from beneath, I believe this has something to do with the placement of their eyes. And their ambushing feeding behavior. I can see Every fish that comes through and hits this rig. I have concluded that Pike tend to take my shiner by the tail and sit on the bottom and watch it for a second or two before they rip in and attack it. Are my hypothesis correct?? Has anyone tried this technique?? I have never been out and not caught at least 1 pike on this rig. If anyone has any feedback, or a better method, I am very interested in hearing it. |
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