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Offline Brian123

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Species question
« on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:40 AM »
Just caught this, has pickerel and pike qualities, never seen this pattern before. Input?

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Re: Species question
« Reply #1 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:45 AM »
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Re: Species question
« Reply #2 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:47 AM »
Tried copy and pasting any other way to upload on here from your phone?

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Re: Species question
« Reply #3 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:51 AM »
Tried copy and pasting any other way to upload on here from your phone?

Ice shanty is tricky, in order to upload pictures here, you first have to upload it to an online database such as photobucket and then copy the image code to paste into your post. Here is a link to a good instructional post.

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Re: Species question
« Reply #4 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:57 AM »
tiger muskie I believe
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Re: Species question
« Reply #5 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:58 AM »
Brian123...you should use the img code from PB ...bottom left... and imbed that into the message ...just copy and paste the img code....also you can modify your post
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Re: Species question
« Reply #6 on: Jan 19, 2017, 11:58 AM »
I think this is the basic fish pattern for pickerel and pike:

Pickerel are green marks on a white background
Pike are white spots on a dark background, which could be green, grey, blue-grey(ish).

Then there's the odd chance that it could be a pike/pickerel hybrid, like a tiger muskie.
Muskies are usually plain (no bars) or barred (striped) or variations of both.

At least that's as good as I can recall, and may be the other way around...
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Re: Species question
« Reply #8 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:05 PM »
That may be a juvenile pike, I've caught smaller pike before with markings that looked more like pickerel. The overal body characteristics look more like a pike in my opinion, there is a slight difference in the way they look besides just the patterns and colors I think.

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Re: Species question
« Reply #9 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:12 PM »
looks like a redfin pickerel to me
tiger muskie are hybrids of pike/musky

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Re: Species question
« Reply #10 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:14 PM »
WAY too big to be a redfin pickerel.


Lets see: faint dark blotches on fins, operculum not fully scaled

Thats a northern pike

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Re: Species question
« Reply #11 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:16 PM »
Colors match but size do not for red fin, igfa record is 2.4, this was 3.1...

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Re: Species question
« Reply #12 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:18 PM »
think positive, new world record! :tipup:

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Re: Species question
« Reply #13 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:19 PM »
Pickeral and Pike are cross breeding in Champlain. I have heard of this happening else where also. I would guess that might be what you have. It is way to big to be a red fin pickeral I agree
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Re: Species question
« Reply #14 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:22 PM »
looks like a redfin pickerel to me
tiger muskie are hybrids of pike/musky

I would agree redfin, yes it is large for a redfin but hey nature has a way ya know :tipup:
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Re: Species question
« Reply #15 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:27 PM »
The way the bottom jaw curls up leads me to believe it is not a pickerel.  The redness of the fins leads me to suggest tiger musky over pike/pick hybrid, also the hybrids seem to generally be a lot deeper green in color. 
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Re: Species question
« Reply #16 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:27 PM »
its a trout...hehehe
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Re: Species question
« Reply #17 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:28 PM »
It's out of the oxbow so anything is possible haha I'd just like to get a 100% positive ID

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Re: Species question
« Reply #18 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:36 PM »
My guess is a pikerel. Pike pickerel hybrid. I've seen them come out of Hamilton a couple of times. Through the ice and soft water. Just my guess

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Re: Species question
« Reply #19 on: Jan 19, 2017, 12:39 PM »
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Re: Species question
« Reply #20 on: Jan 19, 2017, 01:11 PM »
I caught one of those in shrewsbury a couple years ago. at first I thought it was a tiger . but it also had the color of a pickerel.  had no beads on it like a pike. the guy I was fishing with said it was a "fancy pickerel". he said he has seen them before in this lake.  I will try to find the picture and post it.

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Re: Species question
« Reply #21 on: Jan 19, 2017, 01:22 PM »
Fancy pickerel 100%

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Re: Species question
« Reply #22 on: Jan 19, 2017, 01:42 PM »
Looks like a Grass Pickerel....Whatever it is, nice catch!
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Re: Species question
« Reply #23 on: Jan 19, 2017, 01:54 PM »
Fancy pickerel 100%
**censored** is a fancy pickerel haha I'm looking for the actual species

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Re: Species question
« Reply #24 on: Jan 19, 2017, 02:00 PM »
Back in college a fisheries biologist brought in a hybrid to my ichthyology class. Based on the picture it does look similar to one but if its one thing I learned with fish ID is that looks aren't everything. Cool catch regardless!

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Re: Species question
« Reply #25 on: Jan 19, 2017, 02:40 PM »
I am going hybrid. This picture shows a pickerel , hybrid and a pike


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Re: Species question
« Reply #26 on: Jan 19, 2017, 03:09 PM »
WAY too big to be a redfin pickerel.


Lets see: faint dark blotches on fins, operculum not fully scaled

Thats a northern pike

Yup...simple id....but might as well just call it a hotdog and move on...until someone starts paying for fish id's... @)

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Re: Species question
« Reply #27 on: Jan 19, 2017, 03:37 PM »
Black line under eye it's a pickerel those black spots are a disease. Forget what it's called but have caught shiners Goldens and some bass with it on them

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Re: Species question
« Reply #28 on: Jan 19, 2017, 04:47 PM »
Anther shot of it

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Re: Species question
« Reply #29 on: Jan 19, 2017, 04:49 PM »
That is definitely a tiger Muskie with those vertical lines.
 Look up on the mass sight for tiger muskie stocked waters. See if that pond was on the list.
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