Just wanted to share in hopes that someone will also return the favor someday. I live in Indy area and food a vacation day today searching for ice to get on. Drove for 8 hours. Drove east and west in the Warsaw area. Warsaw then down 31 to the 2 lakes by the resi area. I was unable to get on anything. Also I had a 12ft 2 x 6 in treated stud and my walk out in the back and wasn't happening. The sides were shot everywhere. And don't look to be hard enough overnight imo..most had open water. FYI.