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I've heard forecasters say this winter will be milder than the last two. In my opinion the last two were way too cold, it made ice sure enough at -30 at times, and it seemed it never stopped snowing last winter around here. Anyone remember that huge car/semi pileup on I-94 near Kalamazoo? I could stand it being a warmer winter than the last 2, but cold enough to make good ice.