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Hope their wrong but NOAA forecast for the Northeast shows a warmer than normal Nov/Dec/JanThey were pretty much dead on last year - and they were right calling for a warm September back in June.The ugly charts (for ice fisherman - probably favorable for everyone else) are here - http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/multi_season/13_seasonal_outlooks/color/t.gif