Author Topic: What type of pike??? (Read 5675 times)

Fishbones' · « **on:** Mar 22, 2015, 11:37 AM »

Here is a pike from last weekend...

Here is a pike from this weekend...

Why do these fish look so different? The first one looks odd...the second one looks normal. Thoughts on the odd looking one?

NY_labman · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 11:39 AM »

Are there Tigers in that lake??

Fishbones' · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 11:47 AM »

I don't think so...odd one is from Glendale Lake, PA. Normal one from Black Moshannon, PA.

Kronik · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 11:48 AM »

The first one is a chain pickeral and a very nice one at that. They are common here in NB. I have caught them as far south as Florida.
The second one must be a northern Pike. We dont catch them here.
Keep up the good work.

ran7ger · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 11:52 AM »

there's lots of different color patterns on pike. just a genetic variation and probably has something to do with their environment. i've caught fish like both of those around here as well as many other colors/patterns. check out silver pike.

both of those fish are northern pike.

Fishbones' · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:03 PM »

Quote from: Kronik on Mar 22, 2015, 11:48 AM

The first one is a chain pickeral and a very nice one at that. They are common here in NB. I have caught them as far south as Florida.
The second one must be a northern Pike. We dont catch them here.
Keep up the good work.

First one is not a chain pickerel....I'm very familiar with those slime darts...

Kronik · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:22 PM »

Oops, my bad.The vertical and horizontal black bars through the eyes and the light colored fins threw me off. After looking at some other chain pickeral pics I agree that is not one.
We only have Chain pickeral and Muskie for pike here. It makes identifying them fairly easy.

NJChris · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:22 PM »

This is a chain pickerel. Note the sub orbital bar on the pickerel, that the pike in the first picture does not have.

swamp puppy · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:28 PM »

It is a chain pickerel/Northern pike hybrid. here are some other examples https://anrweb.vt.gov/FWD/FWD/MasterAnglerSearch.aspx

swamp puppy · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:29 PM »

woops. sorry i thought the link would take you directly to the pike/pickerel. in species just choose pike/pickerel hybrid

IM-POUNDING- R -U · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 02:01 PM »

Was it bigger than24"?

IM-POUNDING- R -U · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 02:02 PM »

The 2nd one to me looks like a Amur pike.

perch bait · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 02:39 PM »

The first one is probably just a pike/pickerel hybrid but could it be a red-finned pickerel?

greensider · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 02:43 PM »

they are both pike period the first one still has the pattern of a juivanile

tc34 · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 02:58 PM »

Hybrid sent pictures of one caught out of chauncy lake years ago to mass wildlife and they confirmed it

builder · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 03:05 PM »

I first fished Glendale in 1969 and I seem to remember something about a different strain in there called the amur pike. long time ago so I may be wrong.

Fishbones' · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 04:50 PM »

Thanks for the feedback. I am now convinced that it is a pike-pickerel hybrid. Didn't even know these existed. Pretty cool!

buz23 · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 05:50 PM »

That's a hybrid pickerel/pike. There are lots of them in Lake Champlain, and if you google you will find lots of pics of fish that look like yours. The slanted vertical bars are distinctive.

merkleyb · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 01:30 AM »

It's a fork finned-walleyed bass. DUH!!!!!

thomasthepikehunter · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 10:15 AM »

I'm going to have to say they are both northern pike. Both of the body patterns and colors are typical of pike, and I have caught plenty that looked like both of those. I am pretty sure what looks like a black slash over the eye like a pickerel, is nothing more than a crease and a shadow. The body shape is definitely that of a pike, and not a pickerel. There are two things that really threw me off. One is the lack of pattern on the fins. Pike almost always have a spotty pattern on the tail, and its usually darker in color like a green or even orange/red, but not always. The other thing is the tail fin looks like it is very pointed and has a deep V. On closer inspection, it looks like it may just be torn a little, however, it does look like it has the fins of a muskie. It is definitely not an amur pike, but as far as I can tell, they were introduced into the lake.

52isntbigenough · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 10:50 AM »

Coloration is still too much of a northern, the bottom fins are also too rounded to be a musky.

Some sorta of odd patterned northern for sure.

swamp puppy · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 10:51 AM »

its a hybrid. people catch them all the time and assume they are just pike. they tend to be more pike like than pickerel like. here is a comparison of the three. http://www.angelfire.com/home/lake/images/esoxs.jpg

cabst119 · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 11:19 AM »

So a musky-pike hybrid is a tiger musky, and people are claiming on this post that Fish Bones' fish is a pike-pickerel hybrid (which is what I believe.).

This begs the question, are there Musky-pickerel hybrids also?

52isntbigenough · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 12:59 PM »

Any chance that this thing is a Grass Pickerel?

thomasthepikehunter · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 02:00 PM »

Looking at pictures of grass pickerel, the biggest ones are barely larger than a persons hand, so I would guess not. I catch pike that look like the first one from time to time, and there are no pickerel of any kind near me.

HybridHunter · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 06:19 PM »

The first pic is an immature pike. We catch them all the time out here. Both in lakes with pickerel and without. The marking are pretty neat.

Fishbones' · « **Reply #26 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 09:12 PM »

Quote from: FishinNY on Mar 23, 2015, 06:19 PM

The first pic is an immature pike. We catch them all the time out here. Both in lakes with pickerel and without. The marking are pretty neat.

Immature at 27"? Maybe I suppose...but here is a pic of part of that particular fish at peak maturity...

Also, the "mature" pike in the second pic was only 22". Go figure...

deadsmelthead · « **Reply #27 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 09:13 PM »

I know that NH site says that its a Pike/Pick hybrid, and well i hate to break it to them, but its not, they are just pike with weird markings..Ive caught pike with similar markings of the 1st fish pic that was posted in a lake where there is absolutely no pickerel..

Ive caught a few Pike/pick hybrids over the years and the best picture i have found of one was posted on this site by a guy named Townie and here it is

they dont all look exactly like this and vary from one fish to the next but they generally have those kind of patterns sometimes with a slight vertical chain marking

merkleyb · « **Reply #28 on:** Mar 24, 2015, 12:09 AM »

Quote from: swamp puppy on Mar 23, 2015, 10:51 AM

its a hybrid. people catch them all the time and assume they are just pike. they tend to be more pike like than pickerel like. here is a comparison of the three. http://www.angelfire.com/home/lake/images/esoxs.jpg

I agree with this guy - good photos to compare too...........Now, with all you experts on board, which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Light liner · « **Reply #29 on:** Mar 24, 2015, 10:15 AM »

That's a pike/pickerel hybrid, we have those up here in a few of the lakes.
The state has introduced them.
Check your fish and game website they probably have info on them.
Biggest I've caught yet is a 20" but I've heard of them as big as 9 lbs being caught out of lake champlain.
Nice fish.

http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=111842.0

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Author Topic: What type of pike??? (Read 5675 times)