Author Topic: CUTBOW (Read 4649 times)

broncomania · « **on:** Mar 15, 2015, 11:56 AM »

CAUGHT THIS PRETTY LITTLE CUT BOW. WANTED TO SHARE. STILL 2FT OF CE HERE.

wyoutdoors · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 15, 2015, 01:23 PM »

Nice shot!

lippy · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 15, 2015, 02:03 PM »

nice fish why you home so early?

Maddog · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 15, 2015, 02:07 PM »

Nice looking fish

Fishrmn · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 15, 2015, 06:19 PM »

Just out of curiosity, why do you think the fish has any cutthroat DNA? It looks like a Rainbow Trout to me.

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ClearCreek · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 15, 2015, 09:17 PM »

Fishrmn:

That was the question I had as well; looks like a nice rainbow to me.

ClearCreek

broncomania · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 12:36 PM »

it had the cutthroat under the jaw. didn't show in pic.

Fishrmn · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 01:00 PM »

Many rainbows have the slash marks as well.

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broncomania · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 04:33 PM »

i'm no biologist, but that's what I have always called them.whatever just wanted to share.

SkunkedAgain · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 05:47 PM »

Right or wrong, iv'e always called them a cutbow if they have orange slashes under the jaw too.

ClearCreek · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 08:54 PM »

Quote from: Fishrmn on Mar 16, 2015, 01:00 PM

Many rainbows have the slash marks as well.

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Wyoming_Ice · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 16, 2015, 10:17 PM »

Whatever that is, it is a cool photo broncomania...

fishlord · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 17, 2015, 08:28 AM »

Cutbow trout identification

The "cut-bow" is a genetic cross between a rainbow and a cutthroat trout. They can exhibit
a wide range of characteristics. When identifying a hybrid look for the characteristics of a
rainbow but with the red-orange color slash (visible above) below the trout's jaw. This is
the tell-tale characteristic of a cutthroat trout that usually shows through in a hybrid.

ClearCreek · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 12:14 AM »

Many wild rainbow that have not had a cutthroat anywhere near them for decades will have faint cut stripes.

ClearCreek

Wyoming_Ice · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 07:43 AM »

So how do you identify a cut bow ?

ClearCreek · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 09:37 PM »

Quote from: Wyoming_Ice on Mar 18, 2015, 07:43 AM

So how do you identify a cut bow ?

Wyoming_Ice:

The most positive way would be DNA analysis, but that is not possible or practical when out fishing.

So, if the rainbow looking fish you catch has white tipped anal and pelvic fins; and white leading edges on the pelvic fins it is a rainbow, throat slashes or not.

ClearCreek

Wyoming_Ice · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 03:58 PM »

I see what you are talking about ClearCreek. Thank you.
We learn something new every day....

Wyo Ice

POk3s · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 25, 2015, 12:46 PM »

Beautiful fish. I caught a couple that looked just like that in the derby

. Nothing better than those dark hook jawed males.

For what it's worth almost ALL of those big, dark, males will possess the orange under the jaw. I don't know if it is just further coloration when they're that dark or what. Doesn't really matter.....as it is a beautiful fish none the less.

SLAYERFISH · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 02, 2015, 12:48 PM »

If it has the orange slashes under its jaw then its a cutbow. Its just that simple.

Wyoming_Ice · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 02, 2015, 04:12 PM »

ClearCreek · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 02, 2015, 09:10 PM »

Quote from: SLAYERFISH on Apr 02, 2015, 12:48 PM

If it has the orange slashes under its jaw then its a cutbow. Its just that simple.

SLAYERFISH:

I hate to tell you but it is not that simple; what you say is just not true. I have seen many rainbow that have never been any where near a cutthroat and they have red/orange slashes under the jaw. Most are wild rainbows in streams that have not been stocked with any trout in decades and there are no cutthroats for a hundred miles.

What makes you think all rainbow looking fish with red/orange slashes are cutbows?

ClearCreek

SLAYERFISH · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 03, 2015, 08:07 AM »

Because thats what I read somewhere. True rainbows have no slash. It might be as little as 1% cutty, but its still a cuttbow. IMHO.

legend · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 03, 2015, 08:16 AM »

....."A rose by any other name is still a rose "...pretty fish.

SLAYERFISH · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 07, 2015, 11:13 AM »

From Wikipedia:
In the 1880s, rainbow trout were stocked in a number of different waters that had cutthroat trout in them. Shortly after, cutbows were prominent in these waters. Cutbow fish are created when the female cutthroat trout's eggs are fertilized by a bigger male rainbow trout. Many fishermen get the cutbow confused with rainbow and cutthroat trout. The cutbow has red or orange slash markings under the jaw and a silver body. Though most cutbow have dots on their bodies, patterns vary between each fish.[2]

SLAYERFISH · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 07, 2015, 11:20 AM »

Cutbow trout identification
The "cut-bow" is a genetic cross between a rainbow and a cutthroat trout. They can exhibit
a wide range of characteristics. When identifying a hybrid look for the characteristics of a
rainbow but with the red-orange color slash (visible above) below the trout's jaw. This is
the tell-tale characteristic of a cutthroat trout that usually shows through in a hybrid.

Wyoming_Ice · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 07, 2015, 08:20 PM »

Well there you have it.... in a nutshell.....

Wyo Ice

Fishrmn · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 08, 2015, 05:09 PM »

Except Wikipedia is infused with questionable and often inaccurate facts. Especially in this case.

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legend · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 08, 2015, 06:37 PM »

Will someone please turn out the lights when you leave ? thank you.

ClearCreek · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 09, 2015, 10:11 PM »

Quote from: legend on Apr 08, 2015, 06:37 PM

Will someone please turn out the lights when you leave ? thank you.

Legend:

Before I hit that switch and turn out the light I would like to shed a little of that light on this cutbow discussion.

I grabbed my copy of Trout and Salmon of North America by Robert J. Behnke off the bookshelf. If you do not know who Dr. Behnke is, or was I should say as he passed a couple years ago, he was a long time professor of Fisheries and Conservation in the Department of Fishery and Wildlife Biology at Colorado State University. He authored more than 100 articles and papers and wrote the column “About Trout” for Trout Unlimited’s Trout Magazine. He was regarded as the expert on cutthroat trout in North America.

In Trout and Salmon of North America Dr. Behnke describes several subspecies of genetically pure rainbow trout that have “cutthroat marks”. On page 139 there is this, “In cutthroat trout the cutthroat mark beneath the jaws is an intense color and is typically bright red, whereas in rainbow trout populations that exhibit a cutthroat mark, such as some redband trout, it is a more subdued yellow or orange.”

So, do cutbows exist, absolutely they do. Is every rainbow looking fish with cutthroat marks a cutbow, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

I hope I am the last one out the door so I am going to turn out the light.

ClearCreek

SLAYERFISH · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 11, 2015, 12:48 PM »

So who ya gonna believe, Me or some PHD professor?

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Author Topic: CUTBOW (Read 4649 times)