Author Topic: Ice Hornets and other strange creatures (Read 1727 times)

earthdirt · « **on:** Mar 05, 2015, 06:44 PM »

Anyone ever heard of Ice Hornets? I hear it's a type of hornet that lives in the ice. What color are they? They sound like amazing creatures, almost unbelievable. I'd love to hear anything anyone has ever heard of them.

The old timers used to mention the snow snake, anyone ever heard of any other creatures who live on the ice?

Bottle_O_Moxie · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 05, 2015, 08:59 PM »

Finless brown trout.

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dennisg34 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 12:47 AM »

Never heard of either, but I can tell you the "Ice Hornet" (if it's real) would be highly unlikely as mostly all the hornets (usually only the queen and its eggs survive) die off in the winter.

As for a "snow snake" I know for a fact there would be no such actual snake (reptile) to exist. The only snakes we have up north here do a process called 'brumation' (most people mistake this as 'hibernation'). This means they slow down their metabolism (since they are cold-blooded, they need the sun to digest food). The difference between these two processes is that with hibernation (pretty much only mammals) they feed up before winter and survive off their fat reserves and basically sleep the whole time. With reptiles and brumation, they just slow down their metabolic rates and don't sleep and are actually active.

But for the reason why the snakes wouldn't actually be able to be out and about (instead of brumating) is they would freeze to death and/or starve to death. Snakes have to be under the frost line in order to survive. Since the ground and lakes are frozen, they wouldn't be able to eat the worms, insects, frogs, fish and other animals they normally would be eating in the spring/summer/fall seasons.

Hope I was able to inform you of your questions! If you were being sarcastic, I missed it haha

-DG34

Seamonkey84 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 01:04 AM »

I googled snow snake and it came up as a game the native Americans use to play.

Btw I left a couple "brown trout" loose just a bit ago, a very satisfying release so to speak.

Sorry just had to lol.

GasBlaster · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 03:56 AM »

Some Hudson river white fish have been seen in the lower androscoggin.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hudson%20River%20White%20Fish

Fishn'Rod · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 09:03 AM »

Quote from: GasBlaster on Mar 06, 2015, 03:56 AM

Some Hudson river white fish have been seen in the lower androscoggin.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hudson%20River%20White%20Fish

Spider1 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 09:16 AM »

yeah, no. No such thing as either ice hornets or ice snakes. Someone is pullin your leg.

RealBigReel · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 09:31 AM »

Quote from: Spider1 on Mar 06, 2015, 09:16 AM

yeah, no. No such thing as either ice hornets or ice snakes. Someone is pullin your leg.

UHMM...............rea d reply #133 on the sebago meet and greet thread

hardwatergrampa · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 09:33 AM »

sorry to say but we do have snow snakes in maine they live just under the ice if you keep a watchful eye you may see them in march/april ,they crawl up old ice fishing holes on to the ice to warm up there white color makes them hard to see. if you get bit by one youll come down real sickly

fishlessman · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 06, 2015, 09:37 AM »

ice hornets no, snow fleas yes, evidence of snow snakes all over the state of maine

Sawyerjosh · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 07, 2015, 06:32 AM »

I had a dream last night that yellow jackets were pouring out of a hole in the ice

dennisg34 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 07, 2015, 03:23 PM »

So a MOD deleted my comment? Cool, thanks for the message and heads up why

earthdirt · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 07, 2015, 07:25 PM »

Quote from: dennisg34 on Mar 06, 2015, 12:47 AM

Never heard of either, but I can tell you the "Ice Hornet" (if it's real) would be highly unlikely as mostly all the hornets (usually only the queen and its eggs survive) die off in the winter.

As for a "snow snake" I know for a fact there would be no such actual snake (reptile) to exist. The only snakes we have up north here do a process called 'brumation' (most people mistake this as 'hibernation'). This means they slow down their metabolism (since they are cold-blooded, they need the sun to digest food). The difference between these two processes is that with hibernation (pretty much only mammals) they feed up before winter and survive off their fat reserves and basically sleep the whole time. With reptiles and brumation, they just slow down their metabolic rates and don't sleep and are actually active.

But for the reason why the snakes wouldn't actually be able to be out and about (instead of brumating) is they would freeze to death and/or starve to death. Snakes have to be under the frost line in order to survive. Since the ground and lakes are frozen, they wouldn't be able to eat the worms, insects, frogs, fish and other animals they normally would be eating in the spring/summer/fall seasons.

Hope I was able to inform you of your questions! If you were being sarcastic, I missed it haha

-DG34

No doubt about the biology. I like the possibilities of stories.

whitefishlover · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 07, 2015, 08:04 PM »

Hahahaha......Here we go again. Where is that snow snake video someone put on last year??

pegasus · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 08:14 AM »

Snow snakes eat ice hornets. I had a snow snake throw me in the air about four feet at the first of the season and there wasn't but a light dusting of snow on the ice. Sneaky *****s.

pegasus · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 08:16 AM »

Quote from: Sawyerjosh on Mar 07, 2015, 06:32 AM

I had a dream last night that yellow jackets were pouring out of a hole in the ice

Bad ice cube will do that.

dennisg34 · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 09:11 AM »

I'll just put this here again:

http://www.elnuabenakitribe.org/SnowSnakes.html

hardwatergrampa · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 09:40 AM »

Quote from: dennisg34 on Mar 08, 2015, 09:11 AM

I'll just put this here again:

http://www.elnuabenakitribe.org/SnowSnakes.html

I just saw the Easter Bunny was out collecting eggs

Bob E · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 10:53 AM »

Ever pull a mud puppy up through the ice? I had never heard of them until I hooked one on Lake Erie back in the day. It felt like I was reeling in a decent fish until two little mutant baby hands reached up through the hole. It pulled itself up on the edge of the ice, flared its gills and looked me dead in the eyeballs with my hook hanging out of its mouth

Being within eyesight of fermi 1 didn't help.

woodchip · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 12:01 PM »

I've seen Mudpuppies laying on the ice at Maranacook, and Sabbatus lake.

Sinnian · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 02:01 PM »

I thought mudpuppies were only in the Belgrades?

woodchip · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 08, 2015, 05:30 PM »

That's what I saw , I supposed it could have been dumped out of a bait pail. I have never caught one . The ones I saw were dead.

StevenB · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 09, 2015, 11:56 AM »

just my 2 cents on the subject of strange water creatures....

well, i am just a city boy from Portland, fished off the east end beach a lot in the early 70's and we saw the salt water version of the Finless brown trout, that we called the Harbor Trout...many other "jelly-fish" types "swimming" by as well.

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Author Topic: Ice Hornets and other strange creatures (Read 1727 times)