The first year I had them I didn't try them much but this year when things got tough I did and am glad. From otter Creek, Bristol pond, chittenden dam and numerous small ponds they caught good fish when nothing else I tried worked. East creek was great and some real niceLM. If we ever get good ice, this snow wont help, i will try them. Also the water clarity needs to be pretty good and i always use some smelly jelly (just me but i like the stuff).