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twincities, thank you for the info. planning on being inTC for ice show in early dec. ,n, since its a 900 mi. drive i may bring my stuff ,n, stay for awhile. should be safe if not drivable ice north of younse to get my early fix. lodges pro,lly are,nt booked up then, so maybe can get room most anywhere. wouldn,t think of not paying for privelige of using road. small price to buy local knowledge since they pro,lly plow to good areas on lake. wire