Author Topic: Ice shack carnage!! (Read 12500 times)

9huskies · « **Reply #30 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 05:56 AM »

Quote from: Fast jack on Mar 30, 2014, 06:09 PM

Both the shacks I mentioned before had the names of the owners removed as well as any thing of value before they were abandoned . We have to pay a fee to dump construction materials at our transfer station. I dont want to be the one to pay for another mess - I will help the owner clean it up -no questions asked .. I posted here a month ago asking for help in finding the owner of the 8x8 red Shack with one window @ perch point on Mousam lake -hundreds of members looked at the post but no one responded with the owners name. I am one of a few year round residents near the point and when the summer folks come back I get the static for everything from dead skunks to poor roads !! I dont need another Ice shack horror story . People wonder why we loose lake access???

The people who remove their names before abandoning a shack would look at a registration sticker as one more thing to remove. The wardens should have already seen the name on the shack and shouldn't need a registration sticker to identify a shack.

MG39 · « **Reply #31 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 06:40 AM »

Quote from: Snopro on Mar 30, 2014, 04:41 PM

We don't need to pay anymore fees! They have our names and adresses now. If they do there jobs, the slobs will get a ticket.

Don't give them any ideas to pick our pockets anymore.

gamefisher · « **Reply #32 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 07:02 AM »

Although nobody wants to pay more fees, let's be honest here, there is a slob mentality that is far more prevalent in the winter than with boat owners. You know the guys, they build this chitbox shack, put it out on the lake, don't block it up, don't tie it off, don't tend it all season. They might go as so far to write their name in sharpie marker on a piece of duct tape or not put it on at all. At the end of the season, if it looks like too much work to get it off, (you know, like 15 minutes or a six pack, whichever comes first) they rip off the piece duct tape and call it good. If we are "lucky", they might even chainsaw the walls off and take them.

Can't remember the last time I saw a boat owner let his boat freeze in as winter approached....

Snopro · « **Reply #33 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 07:15 AM »

Quote from: gamefisher on Mar 31, 2014, 07:02 AM

Although nobody wants to pay more fees, let's be honest here, there is a slob mentality that is far more prevalent in the winter than with boat owners. You know the guys, they build this chitbox shack, put it out on the lake, don't block it up, don't tie it off, don't tend it all season. They might go as so far to write their name in sharpie marker on a piece of duct tape or not put it on at all. At the end of the season, if it looks like too much work to get it off, (you know, like 15 minutes or a six pack, whichever comes first) they rip off the piece duct tape and call it good. If we are "lucky", they might even chainsaw the walls off and take them.

Can't remember the last time I saw a boat owner let his boat freeze in as winter approached....

This all keeps going back to regerstering yourvshack, BUT we have orvname,and adress on them already! The regersration numbers,and name would come off just as fast! Trust me i did my share of pissing people off on hermon pond about leaving junk out there, but imthink it was left clean when people pulled then shacks in our little area. If you see a shack that may end up a problem, jot down the name on it for future reference! We can stop alot of this bullcrap ourselfs!

Scalloper · « **Reply #34 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 07:42 AM »

Why not require each trap to be registered while we are at it? I have also seen them left abandon on the ice.
The bottom line is, is it right for all of us to pay a fee when a very low % of lowlifes trash our lakes? And as others mentioned this reg will not change a thing. Maybe as sportsmen we should snap a photo of some questionable shacks to help find the owners if need be. Most of us carry cameras with us.

I have always woundered why we dont need to register a auger? Afterall it runs on gas?

JDK · « **Reply #35 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 08:14 AM »

I agree with Snopro and gamefisher's sentiments. As I mentioned earlier, if icefishermen policed themselves we would not be even be talking about this. Take a ride up around Long Lake in late April and look at all of the junk laying on the ice. We lost some great access there in the past due, in part, to this very reason. We all b***h when icefishing gets a bad wrap but maybe we should start kicking some slob hiney that gamefisher rightly mentions.

Maybe it is beyond my understanding but I cannot fathom why someone would go to all of the trouble to build a hardside and then not tend it over the season. I used (and had) hardsides for years and they are a giant PITA but who doesn't know that going in?

joefishmore · « **Reply #36 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 08:49 AM »

Maybe they should be required to have a Milfoil sticker, they could be spreading it if moved from lake to lake. That
way the state would have a record.

spinzer · « **Reply #37 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 11:31 AM »

They should hold an abandoned shack raffle at the end of the year.

fishermantim · « **Reply #38 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 12:02 PM »

Instead of adding another useless fee, maybe have ONE F&G warden at boat launches take a photo of bobhouse WITH info so that if a shack is abandoned later, they can still identify it through the photos? You could even have a volunteer do this part, since there are so many boat ramps to be covered.

If the bobhouse is abandoned and salvagable, have a raffle with the funds going to help the fishing industry (and NOT the wasteful politicians) in the area!!!

There are simple ways to resolve these issues, but unfortunately we have politicians who think the solution to all of OUR problems is to make up a law, charge US a fee, and put the fee money in THEIR pockets!!!

Mainehazmt · « **Reply #39 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 02:48 PM »

I would say up here the game wardens know who owns what shack and where it is and the people in it and the probability of if it will be removed or not..

9huskies · « **Reply #40 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 04:24 PM »

How's this for a solution? Any shack left on the ice after March 31 will be considered abandoned property. Any person may obtain a permit from IFW to salvage any property abandoned on the ice. In simpler terms, remove it or lose it.

fishermantim · « **Reply #41 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 04:37 PM »

I think we have a winner!!!!

Snopro · « **Reply #42 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 04:49 PM »

Quote from: 9huskies on Mar 31, 2014, 04:24 PM

How's this for a solution? Any shack left on the ice after March 31 will be considered abandoned property. Any person may obtain a permit from IFW to salvage any property abandoned on the ice. In simpler terms, remove it or lose it.

Thats what the slobs that leave them there hope for! Someone to do it for them!

Skunkboy · « **Reply #43 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 04:57 PM »

Quote from: 9huskies on Mar 31, 2014, 04:24 PM

How's this for a solution? Any shack left on the ice after March 31 will be considered abandoned property. Any person may obtain a permit from IFW to salvage any property abandoned on the ice. In simpler terms, remove it or lose it.

I've got a bunch of old tvs & other trash that would cost me to throw away that I could put walls around and haul out on the ice.
The problem is a lot of shacks are just "shacks". Some just take their name off and leave it. No one would want the junk anyway. There was a rotten shack near mine this year that was froze in & no sign of anyone using it. Turns out it was pulled off the ice before I took mine home. You just can't tell until April comes.

polarbear86 · « **Reply #44 on:** Mar 31, 2014, 04:58 PM »

Quote from: 9huskies on Mar 31, 2014, 04:24 PM

How's this for a solution? Any shack left on the ice after March 31 will be considered abandoned property. Any person may obtain a permit from IFW to salvage any property abandoned on the ice. In simpler terms, remove it or lose it.

The best idea yet!!!!!! I could have enough shacks to place all over if that was the law haha

gunrunner · « **Reply #45 on:** Apr 01, 2014, 12:59 PM »

ANYONE.....and I repeat ANYONE who wants that red shack STILL out on Mousam at Perch Point I'm sure can HAVE it.Just needs to be chiseled out.....Any flak about it and they can talk to the warden about getting their shack back.It suxs that EVERY year now we have some moron that does this....

Snopro · « **Reply #46 on:** Apr 01, 2014, 06:17 PM »

Quote from: Snopro on Mar 30, 2014, 08:06 AM

Seen two destroyed on plmouth pond trying to get them off the pond! One made it to shore in pieces, one looks like it may burn where it sets!

Well back to my original post, The shack was still on plymouth pond today in a pile!! Hopefully someone will know who left it there!! I made a few callls today trying to find out.

pegasus · « **Reply #47 on:** Apr 01, 2014, 08:07 PM »

Hey, just give them some slack. Just do it the American Progressive Socialist way and pay them for being lazy, you go clean it up so you can help support their lazy ways and we'll have more like them next year, probably from Mexico. Everything free in America.

Aucoin · « **Reply #48 on:** Apr 01, 2014, 08:32 PM »

I had may shack taken off by a friend(3/24) this year by wheeler(we loaded it into my truck bed together) and I noticed my blocks weren't taken. I walked out 2 miles on glare ice with no creepers to get the 4 blocks I used and many more from others. Take responsibility or you'll loose opportunity! Trust me I know because last year on the day I took mine off I had a camp owner ask me to pull off a burnt down shack that had no reason to leave that mess. There was plenty of time to let the slush freeze and take it off after work during the week. In time these instances will lead to more private waters due to a few bad apples

COLD-AS-ICE · « **Reply #49 on:** Apr 02, 2014, 07:33 AM »

I saw a shack left out yesterday on the river in topsham. Won't be long and it will be swept away with the melting ice. Too bad that people don't care anymore. As my father says. " common sense, isn't too common anymore"

Scalloper · « **Reply #50 on:** Apr 03, 2014, 04:25 PM »

Quote from: pegasus on Apr 02, 2014, 12:35 PM

Responsibly isn't there anymore. Just look at our fool of a president. He did a victory lap around the Rose Garden because he force 7.1 million to sign up for health care or else get fined, but in the meantime 6 million loss their health care because of the law. I pity the fool who voted for that socialist.

The sad part is, we have more of the same coming...........

Nor Easter · « **Reply #51 on:** Apr 03, 2014, 04:49 PM »

Quote from: clamfarmer on Mar 30, 2014, 06:11 PM

I wouldn’t mind a registration fee, on the face of it. BUT is this a solution looking for a problem (like voter fraud legislation for literally 4 or five actual cases)?

Not meaning to derail the thread, but please give both sides opportunity for at least one political 'jab'. Try this fresh one on for size (Mr bivalve cultivator. No offense intended, I LOVE clams), and if this one isn't enough, I can post about a dozen more cases, PER DAY until you understand the severity of the problem.

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Back on topic,
No shack registrations please. Doesn't anyone realize how fast a shack could be built 'overnight' these 'days', ON THE ICE, with cordless drills etc, used for a day, or 2 if they dare, and then subsequently abandoned? Pushing for more legislation would only lead to more people DECIDING to break the law IMO.

"Untraceable" shacks would abound. First day of my example would be, Uhh officer, it's portable. We built it today, and we'll take it off tonight. Second day (if there was no altercation on the first), Uhh officer, we saw it and no-one was in it so we just used it we have no idea who it belongs to...

gunrunner · « **Reply #52 on:** Apr 04, 2014, 07:45 AM »

Just an update on the Mousam Perch Point shack....It has been removed from the ice somewhat.Someone sawed it off at ice level and dragged the top of it away.Not the correct approach but....at least somebody tried something.I will watch for the base while trolling ice out and tow it back to the marina.GOOD job to whoever tried.....unless you are the AZZ that owned it.

landlockedsalmon · « **Reply #53 on:** Apr 04, 2014, 08:14 AM »

what does it cost the state "or us" to have a abandoned shack removed?thats what the shack registration fee should be.just my .02.lls

pegasus · « **Reply #54 on:** Apr 04, 2014, 08:30 AM »

You want more government control of your life? Just do the right thing, the government not going too. The only thing they will do is take more of your freedom and charge you for it.

9huskies · « **Reply #55 on:** Apr 04, 2014, 10:20 AM »

I have two questions for the people who are in favor of shack registration. How many of you have shacks? Are you willing to register a shack(s) yourself or are you just in favor of imposing more rules on other people?

StingingLips · « **Reply #56 on:** Apr 04, 2014, 10:34 AM »

What may start out as a 5$ fee would quickly change to a 50 dollar fee in years to come.

rockhound57 · « **Reply #57 on:** Apr 05, 2014, 04:19 AM »

Quote from: landlockedsalmon on Apr 04, 2014, 08:14 AM

what does it cost the state "or us" to have a abandoned shack removed?thats what the shack registration fee should be.just my .02.lls

The cost? loss of access and bad PR, two things awfully hard to fight and/or repair.

However, I'm pretty sure no-one on here would knowingly cause these problems, and we've pretty well beaten this horse; maybe it's time to let this one die for better topics.

LIKE NEXT YEAR'S SHACK!!

icewoman · « **Reply #58 on:** Apr 05, 2014, 09:47 AM »

Quote from: Snopro on Mar 30, 2014, 05:07 PM

Well by law here you need name and adress on your shack! Isn't that info enough??

It should be but I've heard of people (in the past) .....put false names and addresses on shacks (just in case it falls through)

Snopro · « **Reply #59 on:** Apr 05, 2014, 11:27 AM »

Quote from: icewoman on Apr 05, 2014, 09:47 AM

It should be but I've heard of people (in the past) .....put false names and addresses on shacks (just in case it falls through)

I have heard lots of things in the past too, don't mean its all true! We don't need anymore goverment control of our lives !!!! The law breakers will always be law breakers! No matter how much we pay or do!

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Author Topic: Ice shack carnage!! (Read 12500 times)