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Wax, anyone thats been on here for a while knows exactly why you don't post allot of ice conditions. U have more or less said many times, why tell them let them make the drive and find out for themselves. It has nothing at all to do with them trusting your judgement, you plain just don't want to tell them if you know. Its like ur saying I spent my time and gas finding out so why should I tell. The point u could never grasp is if someone lives 2 hrs away. Why should they have to spend 4 hrs on the road just to find out a lake's ice is no good. If I know I would rather tell that person and save them the trip, waste of gas and time. That is what helping is, you have said many times you want them to find out for themselves, thats not helping. As for spreading the word that the bite is on some lake. I have no problem at all with people being tightliped, we've all did it. I agree why ruin our fishing spots with hords of people. Thats not what this thread was about. All this thread was about was because of the time of the year, if anyone post any ice conditions, that they also post what area. It was just that simple but sometimes people make a mountain out of a manhill.
Man you guys are more wormy than when we are waiting on ice.............
I certainly wouldn't want someone's injury or worse weighing on my conscious!
im on my way!!!! gonna look like 'magee marsh road' comin down rte 6 this afternoon.
idiots are born every minute, trying to accept responsibility for said idiots is just asking for a visit to a shrink. Where i come from, im responsible for my own actions...if i tell you the fish are on fire at lake "X", and you show up a day later, and the wind is blowing 70mph, and your jon boat sinks, should i feel responsibility? you can thank the chick who sued McDonalds because her coffee was hot, for this mentality.
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but you can search every one of my posts and you won't find me saying what I bolded in your post above about wanting people to spend their gas and time to look, just because I did or I want to hoard information. It has nothing to do with wanting people to drive 2-4 hours JUST to find out if the ice is safe or not. It is all about not relying on what some stranger says and making the decision to proceed or not with your OWN judgement or judgement from someone you KNOW and TRUST. For me it really IS all about trust and using your own judgement. Do you trust what random strangers say and do when your life could be on the line? Why would you trust what I say or do unless you personally know me? Are people that naive and trusting of strangers? 99+% of people on here have never met me, yet if I post the ice is safe they are going to believe it and drive hours to ice fish? That is crazy. If I post I was on lake x this morning and the ice seemed ok, and it gets sunny and in the 50's after I leave, what if someone from indy sees it and they drive up the next day, you think they are going to be p!ssed off when they fall in and get wet or worse, because I said it was safe? I am sure they will be happy as a clam and probably send me a thank you PM for 'helping' them and nearly killing them. If you don't have someone you know and trust to give you an accurate ice report or are not willing make the drive to check first and last ice yourself for your own safety, then you should get the boat out or go wading in the nearest river to wet a line if your only ice options are 2 hours away.I realize you are trying to help people by posting ice reports. Post all the ice conditions you want for those that are looking and willing to take advice from complete strangers, just don't expect everyone to do it because they realize how doing so could be putting people at risk.
This thread sure could use Rico's expertise
Wax this is my observation. I have read enough of your stuff to know what you say may not be what you truely feel. U may say its about trust, but thats just a front. Its all about "you did you own homework" and your're not sharing. "Do ur own homework" like u did is the real reason. And thats ur right, to not share. But please don't blow smoke in our eyes and say its all about trust. It is ok to admit u don't want to share ice condtions because that would envolve telling the lake's name too. We all know you don't want to give out the names of lakes u fish, and thats ur decission, I'm ok with that.I'm not talking about early/late ice either, I'm talking about dead of winter when ice is hard as a rock, even then u still don't give ice condition out. Why?, As stated above I feel the reason u don't is u don't want to share the lake u just fished, for fear a mob will be there the next day. So please lets just get off the excuss of not wanting to give out condition because of trust. I am sorry to say but that excuss is not believeable. Especially in the dead of winter when ice is as hard as it gets.
Scenerio:Here comes 18 yr old Johnny to this site, he knows absolutely NOTHING about icefishing but he loves to fish. He has seen people all winter icefishing but never had any equipement. He finally scrapes enough money together to buy some icefishing gear and comes this site for help/info. He reads several post how the ice is ok, edges are still good, etc.,etc, etc, but names of the lakes are not shared. Since he read post that ice is good here, edges are ok, he figures the lake 5 miles down the road should be ok. He drives there, no ones else is fishing but he can see old holes out on the lake so he takes off. He get about 100feet out and falls thru, its deep over his head, no ones around, his story is over.Maybe the state should put up signs at all our lakes saying.This in not the time of year for a newbie or greenhorn to be on the ice. Everyone is responsible for their own actions regardless of experience or what they hear. If you don't know what you are doing, stay home.
Musky, in all honesty I would say "Johnny" is an idiot.
a young kid is an idiot just like all lakes north of rte 30 are 'safe' i suppose??!
Maybe not an idiot, but nieve. Believe it or not, kids now days do not have the commom sense kids of older days had. Allot of young kids are nieve to whats happening in the world around them and the dangers out there. Thats why its important to guide them with knowledge. Thats where IS come into play, sharing knowledge.
THE POINT TO THIS THREAD, IS THAT GUYS ARE SAYING OH YEA I HAVE THIS MUCH ICE, EDGES ARE TIGHT, FISH ON. WELL THATS NOT THE CASE, AS PROVEN ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD, A PATRON IS SIMPLY ASKING THAT IF UR GOING TO POST ON UR DAYS ADVENTURE, DONT POST ICE CONDITIONS IF NOT POSTING THE LAKE, JUST POST ON THE ACTIVITY OF THE FISH AND MAYBE SOME TECHNIQUE BEHIND IT. IF WORD GOES AROUND THAT THIS COUNTY LAKES HAS GOOD ICE, (ALL LAKES ARE DIFFERENT) THEN A NOVICE VENTURES OUT AND GETS HURT OR WORSE. HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO PREVENT SUCH ACTIONS FROM HAPPENING. HE ASKS THAT U POST UR CONDITIONS WITH CLOSE PROXKMKTY OR DONT GIVE CONDITIONS CAUSE CONDITIONS CAN VARY DRASTICALLY, WAX AND MUSKY ARE AGREEING TO AN EXTENT THROUGH THE FINE LINES HERE. some ppl are taking this thread as a joke, and shame on them, this is dangerous stuff we are getting into, should a novice be alone? NO! can they end up alone, YES! this thread is an attempt to prevent a situation. lets use it to the best we can and help one another and the young or inexperience to come. we all starged out green, lend a helping hand and thing outside ur own jig box!! act like a bull gill in the dead of winter here, study HARD before you 'maybe' open up. good luck ppl. STAY SAFE!! use judgement, use proper gear and use a buddy system. there is a p.m. feature to use if you dont care to 'burn' ur honey hole. this time of year ppl are traveling roads checkin lakes for descent ice, they see u out there, they now know about ur 'honey hole' worse yet, they access a different way and they are in danger, and HOPEFULLY the fisherman on the ice comes to help out instead of leaving him hang by his elbows like this thread is doing.
I can appreciate that paragraph. However, if it is up to the internet world to guide our youth...this country is in trouble.
Unless you live in the wilderness or live totally of the land, then ur survival relies on the internet. Its sad that the world can not survive without the internet but its true. I like the old days before the internet, the world I think was happier and safer.
As are all of the lakes north of US 6? Back off.
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