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http://neblandvm.outdoornebraska.gov/2014/02/blinded-science-february-24-2014/Daryl B.
Daryl,I know I always seem contrary, but just a straight shooter and nothing personal to you.Seems like the NGPC has adopted the SDSU info from the National Grasslands to the Sandhills (too bad we can't use some UNL folks out there to do the same thing), and has trout rearing down to a science.When can we start thinking outside the box with some innovative research of our own? Or try something new.Don't get me wrong, love science, but I know some folks in NE are doing things that shouldn't work that are.What's say we become leaders rather than followers.Seems that NGPC REACTS a bunch, but doesn't do much for thinking to strive for new.Just a random thought that won't leave my brain....sorry.... UH
Uplander:Can you explain what you mean by the two statements you made:What are some Nebr. folks doing that should not work??What so you mean by being leaders rather than followers??Just curious..........ClearCreek
Thanks for the questions, I should have been more detailed, but didn't want to put the same info out there for those that follow such links.There are folks in eastern NE, central NE, and western NE that have private ponds that have had success with several species of fish that have been said 'it just doesn't work in southeast NE', such as small mouth bass, yellow perch, huge bluegill, etc.Yes there are a ton of variables, but I am sad that it comes down to what the "public" expects rather than real biology.To answer your second question, the wildlife and fisheries management has been totally responsive in NE (even with public input....look at the effect of EHD to deer populations of this state compared to our neighbors that actually adjusted ongoing and outstanding tags rather than 'we will wait to see how this harvest is to adjust next year'.) Really? Doesn't take a degree to do that, more of a politician and actuary.Let's start looking at wildlife and fisheries and parks in this state and be proactive to the people footing the bill, not politics.Sorry for the long response, you asked......lolUH
Uplandhuntr:So if I am understanding you correctly you are saying that because some pond owners in southeast Nebr. have had success with smallmouth bass or yellow perch then that should be the recommendation for all pond stocking in that area? Following your logic, I know of a pond in northeast Nebraska that supported trout, at least for a few years, so should Game and Parks recommend trout stocking in all ponds in the northeast part of the state? And, that Nebraska should have shut down the deer hunting in the middle of the season because there was deer dying of EHD? The state I live in had some deer dying of EHD last fall, but it was real "spotty", some areas had pretty high mortalities while other areas there was few or no EHD deer deaths. To shut down the hunting would have really upset a lot of hunters.Just because the G&P does not do what you want does not mean they are doing things all wrong.ClearCreek
Why is there such an emphasis on raising trout in this state? Does it make rookie fishermen feel better about themselves if they catch one? They are kind of expensive to raise to 11-13" aren't they? They arent good to eat. I'd like to use them for pike bait but I don't want to get caught doing it. They are clogging up my creek chub holes and I'm kinda tired of it. Special thanks to the bucket biologist who stocked merrit with pike by the way. I'm having a blast this winter and for see many great winters to come. I don't even know what to say about the conversation cc and uh are having. Sounds like two dudes who have all the answers yet I don't have one bit of usefull information that I come away with. Proactive and innovative? Neither of you have said what about except maybe adjust deer tags on the fly. What do you two want that would be new? Daryl I want to see the state raise less trout and introduce peackok bass. There that would be innovative. Now I won't have to go to mexico or south america.
The catchable-size rainbows we raise are very cheap and easy to raise. We stock those fish in urban and parks waters around the state because they are relatively easy to catch and we hope that there are a bunch of kids and beginning anglers that take advantage of that and "get hooked on fishing". Some folks like to eat 'em too, especially if they are prepared properly (I like my trout smoked, the hardest part is getting them lit ).Go ahead and use 'em for pike bait. As long as they are legally captured and you are within the legal limits and following all the other rules, go for it. You could legally catch trout and use them dead as bait in a lot of places; would not be a bad idea either.I doubt the pike in Merritt came from bucket biologists. The sandhills have lots of pike and when the water levels are high there are a lot of fish that move around. There have been a few pike in Merritt for a long, long time, a few more right now.Sorry, don't know of any peacock bass habitat in Nebraska,Daryl B.
The way I read the law though, you can use legal gamefish and or parts of those fish for bait . But only in the waters from which they came. I'm going to have to do some more checking into it.
Uplandhuntr:And, that Nebraska should have shut down the deer hunting in the middle of the season because there was deer dying of EHD? The state I live in had some deer dying of EHD last fall, but it was real "spotty", some areas had pretty high mortalities while other areas there was few or no EHD deer deaths. To shut down the hunting would have really upset a lot of hunters.ClearCreek
Daryl B.P.S. We have been doing research in recent years in conjunction with Nebraska-Kearney on yellow perch in Nebraska pits. Maybe we do know a thing or two about that? When we have some results from that research I will share it too. I can tell you right now that largemouth bass really, really like to eat yellow perch.
I highlighted the important parts for you.
You can do anything you want as long as you are following all the rules and regulations.
Public or private pits? Thanks for sticking with this, I know you get hit with a lot of this over and over.
So that's what sdsu and G&P were doing on Pelican those years and told us they were harvesting zooplankton into big glass jars. Hmmm?
I called one of the game wardens in our area today. The law as it reads right now says that you can not use sport fish for bait in any water other than that which it came from. Be it dead or alive.
Do you mean by straightening this out . That they need to change the law? He did say that he expects to see the law ,in the near fututure, read to where you can use sport fish in other bodies of water. Dead or in part. You probably will not be able to use sport fish alive in a different body of water.