Went out yesterday for an hour or so n got a few gills, nothing to brag about but it was fun getting to set up the fatfish finally. Ice was 5 in thick 20 yards from shore then about 4 out further, did not check the black ice in the middle, it just looked too sketchy! One guy out there was killin em with a Marcum and a palm rod. Gosh I HAVE to get a flasher!!!! Fishing blind sucks! Will return soon.