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using dead minnows for pike
« on: Dec 09, 2005, 04:19 PM »
Does anyone have any tips on using dead minnows on tip-ups for pike? Are they effective?

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #1 on: Dec 09, 2005, 04:21 PM »
never used dead minnows, but am succesful with dead smelt and sardines, dont know why minnows wouldnt work? usually with pike, the smellier the better :tipup:

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #2 on: Dec 09, 2005, 04:33 PM »
never used dead minnows, but am succesful with dead smelt and sardines, dont know why minnows wouldnt work? usually with pike, the smellier the better :tipup:
....lots of pike on salties or smelts...ciscoes.....n ot too sure if I agree about the smellier, the better though....I think the fresher and firmer the bait, the better chance you have at getting a good strike......Grump

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #3 on: Dec 09, 2005, 06:01 PM »
What Grump said. I always save my dead minnows and when I run out of live or good looking dead ones start using the best of the rest. ;D

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #4 on: Dec 09, 2005, 06:08 PM »
we have lots of luck with dead or stomped sucker minnows with pike. I normally have half or more of my traps with a dead one on them.
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #5 on: Dec 09, 2005, 06:30 PM »
IMO dead minnows are better than live ones for pike. I think pike are mainly scavengers of winter kill fish. In open water how often can  a big pike sneak up on a big healthy bait? I think they often cruise looking for dead/deing fish of a certain size. In winter fish do not break down quickly like they do with the warm water and bacterial action so they eat fairly well  I don't think they like the motion of any live bait. Its one that they rather not expend a lot of energy to have a bait skip away. With an underwater cam, you see them slowly approach a bait slowly then dart a few inches. (just in case the target fish has a little life in them?)  I doubt that a live fish would allow the pike to get that close and besides would be moving more. (I realize that a blue herring bird etc can move slowly and get pretty close to a target fish) but I doubt that a bait fish would generally be staying in one place for a pike to try. Occasionally one might come in striking range passing right in front of them (like a snapping turtle) but you can't really present the bait to do that anyway. Just my thought on the subject,..

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #6 on: Dec 09, 2005, 09:00 PM »
last year iwhile at the bait shop i knoticed a bucket of dead suckers (decoys) 10-14 inches long. i asked him what they did with them and he told me they throw them away, so i asked if i could have them and he gave them to me. i always set one tip up with the dead ones and always catch fish with them. cant beat free bait.

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #7 on: Dec 10, 2005, 12:23 AM »
Pikehound,
I like dead bait.  Then again, that's all I can use do to "no live bait law."  If you have access to frozen herring, get a pack of the largest herring you can get!  They seem to omit an odor that pike can't resist.  I have fished dead suckers, chubs, and smelt in other states, but herring is the king of dead bait, (never used ciscoes Grump send up a pack eh!)    I agree with these guys....  Pike are more of a scavenger than skilled hunter in the winter. ;)
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #8 on: Dec 10, 2005, 05:05 AM »
 Although dead bait sitting on the bottom works I have had better luck suspending them about 1' below the ice. Stay back from your tip-up and have lots of line avalible for the pike to run with. Cover your hole with cardboard to prevent too much light getting thru (cut a small slot for your line). Some styles of tip-ups cover the hole & don't require the last step.
 Pike can easily see the bait contrasted against the lighter ice during daylight.

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #9 on: Dec 10, 2005, 10:44 AM »
Alot of people use dead bait for pike. Dead perch are also used and very effective when fishing for pike. I believe the MA state record Tiger Musky was caught on a dead perch. I know they are different than pike but they behave pretty similar.

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #10 on: Dec 10, 2005, 10:55 AM »
When we pike fish in the summer we use live suckers on a float rig....after 2 or 3 hits the bait is dead... then we use it on a buck tail or blood circle hook...jigging of the bottom....great success.

If you tried a dead sucker or shinner on a circle hook with your tip up ...I'd bet you'd have the same success! :)

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #11 on: Dec 10, 2005, 05:10 PM »
MA state record tiger musky was caught on a 10+" pond shiner at pittsfield MA at pontosuc(sp?) but he was fishing for pike with the big shiners and it said he usaly catches his best pike on the dead shiners (i got the artical thats in on the water mag.from 2-3 years ago) it was 27lb

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #12 on: Dec 10, 2005, 08:22 PM »
Dead golden pond shiners are excellent pike bait, I usually have 1-2 of my 5 traps rigged with dead shiners. The bigger the better too. :tipup:

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #13 on: Dec 11, 2005, 08:07 AM »

 I,ve always used live sucker minnows but clip tail fin so cant swim real fast. works good for me
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #14 on: Dec 11, 2005, 10:54 AM »
I've used dead minnows many times when I ran out of live ones still caught lots of pike. Dead minnows are great for jigging with a quickstrike set-up too!
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #15 on: Dec 11, 2005, 03:42 PM »
How do you rig them?  Wouldn't dead minnows/smelt float?  Do you use Beaver Dam tip-ups?

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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #16 on: Dec 12, 2005, 11:41 AM »
I prefer dead smelt to live shiners for pike bait.  I seem to catch more and bigger pike on big deadbaits.  They are easier to use too.  No lids freezing on bait coolers, no reaching into icy coolers when you lose the dip net, no dropping flopping shiners down the hole or in the snow, and you save a lot of weight when all you have to carry is a zip-loc full of smelt in your pocket.
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #17 on: Dec 12, 2005, 01:14 PM »
in-fisherman has a good video called Pike in the Dead Zone, all about fishing with dead bait...
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #18 on: Dec 12, 2005, 01:59 PM »
No live bait in Sask. Frozen Smelt or Herring work great :tipup:
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Re: using dead minnows for pike
« Reply #19 on: Dec 12, 2005, 02:20 PM »
I catch creek chubs while trout fishing in the summer. Sometimes I even target chubs, and end up taking a bonus brookie. Toss 'em in the freezer in a vacuum bag, they work great. I've heard that if you hold a lighter to them for a bit when you put them on the hook, it makes the oil come out, and the pike find them irresistible.


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