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Author Topic: New Shappell shanty...........  (Read 2345 times)

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New Shappell shanty...........
« on: Nov 08, 2013, 08:40 AM »
Was at the Grandville cabelas this past week and they have a good amount of hard water items out.  While walking by I saw a new Shappell and it caught my eye and kind of intrigued me a bit.  Smaller may fit 2 people but to me would be tight but looked like a nice set up for solo trips and much easier set up compared to my Frabil cabin style shanty.  Has anyone else seen this and what is their thoughts?

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #1 on: Nov 08, 2013, 08:44 AM »
umm, what one did you get that you want to talk about?

i have the fx100
my buddy has a rover
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #2 on: Nov 08, 2013, 08:52 AM »
This is the new one the bay runner......

http://www.shappell.com/iceshelters/bayrunnersledcabin.html

I did not get one just looking, I have 2 already but been looking to get a new one since I dont use the 2 I have very often.  My frabil is nice but is a cabin the refuge I believe.  Once I get another quad and have something to drag a flip over I will likely go that direction but that is not option for a few years
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #3 on: Nov 08, 2013, 09:25 AM »
The Bay Runner looks perfect for one person. Maybe two if your on a real hot bite and only need one rod each! I've been to the website and pulled up the manual for it to see how it went together. Pretty simple and I believe it weighs 65 lbs. so that isn't lightweight when considering your gear also! This would be great behind a sled or atv/utv! I think I would flush mount a pair of skis flush to the bottom to protect the sled and hatches!  but they do offer wear bars also!! There is just one spreader bar so I would rig up a couple of others so as to be able to put up some reflectix. If anyone gets one of these, please post a review as I really like this shelter!! :thumbsup: :icefish:
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #4 on: Nov 08, 2013, 09:41 AM »
Whats the price of this shelter?

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #5 on: Nov 08, 2013, 09:48 AM »
ahh, just checked it out. looks like a wind trap!
also, the trap doors on bottom don't look like they could keep the water out on the melty days and watery shore lines.
another problem is you have to take most of your gear like buckets and set them on ice instead of leaving them in it while fishing. would be a hassle to keep moving gear in and out  and the idea was to be quicker moving around, i think.
if you don't take much with you like some only take 1 bucket and an auger, then it might work out.
wonder what they thought of for the wind to keep you from blowing away or the sled while not in it?

i'll pass, but thanks for the info. glad to see mike is at least trying to make us new gear.

 if you go with this company, here is some insight for you to know about.
i should call mike and ask him to make us rain/water covers for them. the rear and front windows leak like crazy as does the roof at the seam. the windows leak because the window is velcroed to the inside walls, so the rain tries to collect mostly at the bottoms and has no choice but to run inside. i called him about the poor single stitch in the roof seam. said its beyond his control as china sews them. but still the sides have double folded stitch so the some one knows how to do it and it should be used on all the joints. seeing day light shine thru the roof in all of the holes the stitches make is nuts. i might use windshield flowable silicon on it this season and or take it to local shoe repair man and have him double stitch it at least. they should have sewn in the water seal like tents use. i called there one day and the old lady (normally answers the phone) asked whats up and i told her how bad the tent leaks onto all of my gear in the tub and my self and she said " its an ice shanty, not a rain shelter". I says wow lady, thanks for that tid bit of info.

any way. they have a major problem with the roof to walls stitch and could easily be fixed by them and they are aware of it, but do not seem (get it seam) to care. mike told me to put some product on it at the roof seams. i shouldn't have to put any thing on it, but a tarp is needed or an optional rain fly like some tents use.

they could put the window on the out side and sew in a rain flap just above the windows so water isn't an issue there and i might do it my self.

i built 3 rods to hold the sections that collapse from trying to do so while i am in it. just buy the clips from them and cut conduit to fit and smash the conduit onto the clips. the fx150 comes with the rear one only and thats the one the wind hits the hardest and tries to lift the front where your fishing from over and let wind/snow in and loose lots more heat. snow will lower the rest of them if its snowing hard and make the condensation hit you all of the time, is why you make the others.
they had thickness issues (corners collapsing) with the sled they sold to me and i told mike about it and he sent a replacement out right away and it is much thicker and heavier.
i also told him of a way to not have to fool with the velcro for the tent to tub area. how you can add conduit to make that part of the tent stay down and in.
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #6 on: Nov 08, 2013, 09:49 AM »
The Bay Runner looks perfect for one person. Maybe two if your on a real hot bite and only need one rod each! I've been to the website and pulled up the manual for it to see how it went together. Pretty simple and I believe it weighs 65 lbs. so that isn't lightweight when considering your gear also! This would be great behind a sled or atv/utv! I think I would flush mount a pair of skis flush to the bottom to protect the tub and hatches! There is just one spreader bar so I would rig up a couple of others so as to be able to put up some reflectix. If anyone gets one of these, please post a review as I really like this shelter!! :thumbsup: :icefish:

That is kind of what I am thinking as well, I looked it over quiclky at the store and then online.  I really like the shelf and being able to have 5 gallon buckets slide under the seat out of the way.
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #7 on: Nov 08, 2013, 10:05 AM »
That is kind of what I am thinking as well, I looked it over quiclky at the store and then online.  I really like the shelf and being able to have 5 gallon buckets slide under the seat out of the way.
After the review that 3300 gave us, I think I'll hold off on any decisions I might have made until all of those issues are attended to!! Just more shoddy workmanship from China!! Doesn't seem that you should have to rework a brand new shelter before you can use it!!! I'll wait and see what they do to fix the problems 3300 brought up!! :%$#!:
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #8 on: Nov 08, 2013, 05:30 PM »
It's pretty neat looking but there is no versatility to it.   When it is folded down the canvass covers the sled...... So the only option  is to fish inside.  Plus it is a problem transporting your buckets with everything but the kitchen sink sticking out from the top of them.    I have the frabill recon one man flip over.   I can fish totally enclosed on the frigid days,  use it as a wind break or fish in the weather,  all on a swiveling padded boat seat with a flip down back.   I think the bay runner looks pretty limiting.

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #9 on: Nov 10, 2013, 05:02 PM »
Looks kinda cool but the price for me is the real head scratcher.  $329.  it's cool, but not that cool.  i can get a nice flip for that much. 

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #10 on: Nov 10, 2013, 07:45 PM »
Saw one today..... It was pretty neat but definitely  one person deal.   I collapsed it and found that the canvass does move aside abit so a tall bucket should be no problem.   I did really like the electronics shelf.

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #11 on: Nov 11, 2013, 05:16 AM »
As sad a response as this really is,It is kinda funny.

" i called there one day and the old lady (normally answers the phone) asked whats up and i told her how bad the tent leaks onto all of my gear in the tub and my self and she said " its an ice shanty, not a rain shelter". I says wow lady, thanks for that tid bit of info."

 

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #12 on: Nov 11, 2013, 05:33 AM »
As sad a response as this really is,It is kinda funny.

" i called there one day and the old lady (normally answers the phone) asked whats up and i told her how bad the tent leaks onto all of my gear in the tub and my self and she said " its an ice shanty, not a rain shelter". I says wow lady, thanks for that tid bit of info."

sorry but that is funny , when they are not helpful or rude I always ask if they ever  heard of IS ,[make ya famous] once I got an Email back with an apology 
     

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #13 on: Nov 17, 2013, 02:23 PM »
hmmm... I have a sketch on a clipboard somewhere around here that I considered doing to my jet sled that is very similar to that! Think I now have another reason to wander out to Cabela's :whistle: (Oh good, she's not in the room as I type this!)

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #14 on: Nov 19, 2013, 04:59 AM »
Every time I see this shanty I like it a little bit more!

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #15 on: Nov 20, 2013, 08:19 AM »
installed some flowable silicone along the outside roof to wall seams so should be able to stay dry in my "non rain shelter".
still need to work on the leaking windows idea.

going to lower the side rails for the bench (to keep my head off the ceiling) and extend them and add conduit clamps under the bench seat to make the bench seat slide back and forth to get gear out from under it easier.
might drop a stay bolt or pin to keep the bench from sliding when i don't want it to and pull it out when i want to slide it back. maybe put in another to keep it back and have the heavy items in the rear of the tub for hand pulling the shanty.

will be adding the much talked about reflectix after the tent is reattached. i keep it in a sealed bucket to keep mice away from it.

bought cargo net and will add that to bottom of bench to hold extra things off of the tub, like hats and gloves. also might add some to the sides of tub to keep gear from sliding around.

got LED light strip and remote dimmer components and still need to figure out how much of it is needed. bought the brightest water proof made, the 5630 type SMD's on a 16' reel with 300 LED's and only 20$ delivered. been playing with them on smaller batteries to see how much time you get. looks like gas hogs so far.

got down hill skies to add to it and haven't made up my mind if i want them right under it or build and extension or a smitty sled, but i think its a no go on a smitty sled because i don't want to lift the shanty on/off of it to use the shanty as a shanty. i see it would fine for just a sled only. the tub stops the wind from getting under it to get to you so leaving it up in the air would mean it would get cold and windy inside the shanty. looks like just glue them on to the tub still with silicone. makes you wonder if three would be better than two and have one in the center.

i really should call that ol lady at shappell and see what she thinks about all of this  ;D  she'd probably say "it's not for downhill skiing, it's an ice shanty".

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #16 on: Nov 20, 2013, 09:40 PM »
got the dx200 with the bench seat last year from dunhams for 300 bucks and love this flipover ten times better than my killzone pop up

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #17 on: Nov 21, 2013, 08:47 AM »
got the dx200 with the bench seat last year from dunhams for 300 bucks and love this flipover ten times better than my killzone pop up

you mean FX200, not DX200 right?
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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #18 on: Nov 21, 2013, 10:36 PM »
yeah the fx200 sorry bout that

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Re: New Shappell shanty...........
« Reply #19 on: Nov 22, 2013, 08:50 AM »
@ buddlakemusky
i like mine for what it does do. would hate to see how bad your old one performed and yet curious how bad they can get.

i see they didn't offer the replacement windows for yours. it should be the standard sized windows (9 x 16) if yours is creased bad like mine was new and made it hard to look at things on the out side, all distorted. they folded it right on the window when they (chinese manufacturer) packed mine. i just bought a few more when i noticed it. some are of better quality than others too.
if you want any, look at shappells parts page, parts and then fx100. they are 4 bucks each.
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i just called them and the ol lady has been replaced by a young nice talking lady (at least for today) looking to buy some of their black 600 denier fabric to make storm windows or shutters on the out side of the inside windows. i want to sew on fabric to the tops of the window openings so if water starts coming in (and it does that very well) i can pull down the fabric onto some velcro i would sew to the bottom of the window openings. then either sew velcro up higher to hold them up out of the way or sew in 2 or 3 velcro cable ties in with the flap to roll the storm flap rolled up.
she said "we don't have any fabric here because we don't sew any thing". i asked her who do i contact to get some of it and she said "i don't know". bums me out for a few reasons, no fabric to make patches or mods, not to mention not USA made.
guess maybe i'll forfeit two of the extra windows and cut the plastic out and use the fabric to make them. maybe a fabric shop, but last i checked with them, they only had we they called a diaper cover cloth that was sort of water proof.

the new shanty they made for this year only makes sense if it is attached to a quad or snow mobile and thats how they represent it.


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