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 I have heard lots of good things about nils, jiffy's, and strikemasters, but what is the best one for the price? I want a auger that will last a long time that has quality. Also a lighter model if possible.




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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #1 on: Mar 06, 2013, 08:48 PM »
Well Nils has the longest motor history ( 30+ years) SM and Jiffy only have 5-7 seasons on their new motors so we don't know how long they will last....Lightest is the Nils heaviest will be the Jiffy....

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #2 on: Mar 06, 2013, 08:53 PM »
Well if your in the IGL's area let me know you can see mine in action, also a baitshop in the lakes area has one....

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #3 on: Mar 07, 2013, 07:28 AM »
Hands down the Tanaka, actually made in Japan! this is the nils bigger brother in action with a 10"
http://youtu.be/yL1F6D9Zx2o
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #4 on: Mar 07, 2013, 03:51 PM »
The Tanaka probably has the best reputation for longevity. Its not a "nils" its a Tanaka. Nils just pairs them with their auger bit.

The powerhead retails for $559 and the auger bit is around $120. This time of year you can find the powerhead on sale at a lot of places for around $450.

The bad part is that they are tall. If you are not 6' or taller you will be drilling with the motor at eye level which strains the arms after a long day.

And another bad thing is that they are a lower gear ratio than the rest (why they are faster) so you cannot purchase a bigger bit from another brand and expect it to work for very long. For instance, you couldnt go buy a strikemaster 10" bit and use it on your Tanaka.

So you are pretty much stuck with using the nils bits or small strikemaster bits (4-6").

You are in SD which is known for its wind blown lakes. The wind will blow sediment from the fields onto the lakes and your nils auger bit will last about 5 holes. If you do some searching you will find videos where the big names in ice fishing explain blade choice. They all say they never use shavers in SD/ND because they last very very few holes. They all use chippers which can cut through that dirty ice like its nothing. If you try to drill on one of those wind blown lakes (and how many lakes in SD are NOT wind blown? lol) you will find your nils being very poor, if it even makes it through the first day.

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #5 on: Mar 07, 2013, 04:09 PM »
The Tanaka probably has the best reputation for longevity. Its not a "nils" its a Tanaka. Nils just pairs them with their auger bit.

The powerhead retails for $559 and the auger bit is around $120. This time of year you can find the powerhead on sale at a lot of places for around $450.

The bad part is that they are tall. If you are not 6' or taller you will be drilling with the motor at eye level which strains the arms after a long day.

And another bad thing is that they are a lower gear ratio than the rest (why they are faster) so you cannot purchase a bigger bit from another brand and expect it to work for very long. For instance, you couldnt go buy a strikemaster 10" bit and use it on your Tanaka.

So you are pretty much stuck with using the nils bits or small strikemaster bits (4-6").

You are in SD which is known for its wind blown lakes. The wind will blow sediment from the fields onto the lakes and your nils auger bit will last about 5 holes. If you do some searching you will find videos where the big names in ice fishing explain blade choice. They all say they never use shavers in SD/ND because they last very very few holes. They all use chippers which can cut through that dirty ice like its nothing. If you try to drill on one of those wind blown lakes (and how many lakes in SD are NOT wind blown? lol) you will find your nils being very poor, if it even makes it through the first day.
What are you talking about, look at the link above, I am using a tanaka with a strikemaster 10" bit through 40+ inches,  this is on windblown lake winnipeg!  And, I have drilled 400-500 holes with is combo with no issues??  Like I said earlier this is not the tanaka that on the nils, its slightly larger, 1.6 hp and 33cc, this power head is so strong!  And it has a very close gear ratio to the strikemaster, thats why it works so well!
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #6 on: Mar 07, 2013, 04:18 PM »
The Tanaka probably has the best reputation for longevity. Its not a "nils" its a Tanaka. Nils just pairs them with their auger bit.

The powerhead retails for $559 and the auger bit is around $120. This time of year you can find the powerhead on sale at a lot of places for around $450.

The bad part is that they are tall. If you are not 6' or taller you will be drilling with the motor at eye level which strains the arms after a long day.

And another bad thing is that they are a lower gear ratio than the rest (why they are faster) so you cannot purchase a bigger bit from another brand and expect it to work for very long. For instance, you couldn't go buy a strikemaster 10" bit and use it on your Tanaka.

So you are pretty much stuck with using the nils bits or small strikemaster bits (4-6").

You are in SD which is known for its wind blown lakes. The wind will blow sediment from the fields onto the lakes and your nils auger bit will last about 5 holes. If you do some searching you will find videos where the big names in ice fishing explain blade choice. They all say they never use shavers in SD/ND because they last very very few holes. They all use chippers which can cut through that dirty ice like its nothing. If you try to drill on one of those wind blown lakes (and how many lakes in SD are NOT wind blown? lol) you will find your nils being very poor, if it even makes it through the first day.


Wait a minute. in another thread you described the nils as a flat blade design, now it is a shaver blade design?  Face it, you know nothing of what you speak or you just do this on purpose to incite an argument.
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #7 on: Mar 07, 2013, 04:40 PM »
Nils comes in both 48" and standard 42" augers....My wifes 5' nothing and has no problem with my 48" ?Nils auger....

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #8 on: Mar 07, 2013, 08:52 PM »
I have a couple friends that have a nils. They both like them but say they're a little tall and no matter what they do, they leave too much slush in the holes. They drill effortlessly though and are very quick. Ill just stick with Strikemaster for now. 650 bones for an auger is pretty steep. As far as Tanaka durability and reliability, it all depends on how you take care of it. Tecumsehs have been around for a while too and plenty of them are junk. But I know of quite a few that still run like a champ. My Solo will last just as long as the Tanaka I bet.

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #9 on: Mar 07, 2013, 09:38 PM »
We have a 30 year old Tanka at work that never been touched and far from being cared for, use it a few times a year never winterize it and always runs.... Started it last week for giggles after it hadnt been started since October, was purring on 2 pulls... We will see about the Solos since they have only been out a few years, already lots of issues with the new Honda, most things made today arent made to last forever, they are made to last awhile so we need to replace them.... You say $650 is hight ( more like $575 I think at Stans, Mine was $500 from there) but if you never need to replace it you saved money... Also just what you save on gas over several years makes a difference, I drilled over 100 holes on my Tanaka last weekend, started with a full tank ( 2nd of the season) and still 7/8 of a tank left... I have filled my buddys stikemaster 3 times and I know he has filled it 2-3 times at Shucks, he drilled about the same as me over the weekend and was well under half a tank and I filled his before we started on Saturday....Not sure what the Solo's drilled for holes or what they used for gas...I dont worry about the slush, by the time I get done drilling a set and shoveling off the slush the holes are refilled....

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #10 on: Mar 07, 2013, 10:14 PM »
575 for a tanaka is cheap! I paid over a grand after taxes, the power head was $750 plus taxes(http://www.tanakapowerequipment.com/main-navigation/products?d=338&p=932) and the strikemaster 10" was $200 plus taxes, plus another $40 for the extension.  But I tell ya, when I raced a new z71 the tanaka made it look like a very loud hand auger!lol
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 07, 2013, 10:16 PM »
Oh ya forgot to mention that the handle provides great protection while its bouncing around in the sleigh! It is a little tall but so is every auger needed on lake winnipeg!
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #12 on: Mar 08, 2013, 12:53 AM »
What are you talking about, look at the link above, I am using a tanaka with a strikemaster 10" bit through 40+ inches,  this is on windblown lake winnipeg!  And, I have drilled 400-500 holes with is combo with no issues??  Like I said earlier this is not the tanaka that on the nils, its slightly larger, 1.6 hp and 33cc, this power head is so strong!  And it has a very close gear ratio to the strikemaster, thats why it works so well!

You are talking about a totally different powerhead than I was.
You are talking about a totally different bit than I was.

What are YOU talking about?
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #13 on: Mar 08, 2013, 12:58 AM »

Wait a minute. in another thread you described the nils as a flat blade design, now it is a shaver blade design?  Face it, you know nothing of what you speak or you just do this on purpose to incite an argument.

Nils are a flat blade shaver. The blade design (not really a blade, but a sharpened edge turned into a blade) is flat so it cuts with the whole edge at once. And it is a true shaver blade, cant get any more shaver than a nils.

You know nothing of what YOU speak.

Do some research before telling me I'm stupid. I DO know what I am talking about, most of you do not and when I point it out you claim I'm just here to start an argument. Well you walked right into this one.

Do some research on the powerhead that comes with the nils, it will not work with a 10" auger because there is not enough torque. Nils blades will dull in 2 seconds on dirty ice, (proven by many many topics on this board this season). It is a flat blade (spoken about on here by nils owners all year). It is a shaver style (spoken by many owners and Frank on here). And yet with all these nils owners here proving my point, I do not know what I am talking about. ha
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #14 on: Mar 08, 2013, 03:52 AM »
Nils are a flat blade shaver. The blade design (not really a blade, but a sharpened edge turned into a blade) is flat so it cuts with the whole edge at once. And it is a true shaver blade, cant get any more shaver than a nils.

You know nothing of what YOU speak.

Do some research before telling me I'm stupid. I DO know what I am talking about, most of you do not and when I point it out you claim I'm just here to start an argument. Well you walked right into this one.

Do some research on the powerhead that comes with the nils, it will not work with a 10" auger because there is not enough torque. Nils blades will dull in 2 seconds on dirty ice, (proven by many many topics on this board this season). It is a flat blade (spoken about on here by nils owners all year). It is a shaver style (spoken by many owners and Frank on here). And yet with all these nils owners here proving my point, I do not know what I am talking about. ha
Yes different power head, but if the nils tanaka is anything close to this beast it would have more than enough! Just speculation!
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #15 on: Mar 08, 2013, 04:50 AM »
Nils are a flat blade shaver. The blade design (not really a blade, but a sharpened edge turned into a blade) is flat so it cuts with the whole edge at once. And it is a true shaver blade, cant get any more shaver than a nils.

You know nothing of what YOU speak.

Do some research before telling me I'm stupid. I DO know what I am talking about, most of you do not and when I point it out you claim I'm just here to start an argument. Well you walked right into this one.

Do some research on the powerhead that comes with the nils, it will not work with a 10" auger because there is not enough torque. Nils blades will dull in 2 seconds on dirty ice, (proven by many many topics on this board this season). It is a flat blade (spoken about on here by nils owners all year). It is a shaver style (spoken by many owners and Frank on here). And yet with all these nils owners here proving my point, I do not know what I am talking about. ha


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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #16 on: Mar 08, 2013, 05:01 AM »
My Solo will last just as long as the Tanaka I bet.

I'll take that bet.

Mine imploded after less than 3 seasons, totaling 5 breakdowns in that time period.  The clutch snapped in half the 5th or 6th time to the ice on season one, and either the transmission destructed or the piston broke a ring the 5th and final time this season.

Craigslist had three other Solo's up for grabs, all with the same snapped ring this past couple weeks up in this area alone.

Maybe the TRUE German made Solo's were good and reliable, but the ones that are "German engineered, made in China" are JUNK.

Contact the auger manufacturer (I won't even mention their name I'm so disgusted with their JUNK) and ask them where their "German made" engines are REALLY made....
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #17 on: Mar 08, 2013, 10:28 AM »
Come on guys, we all know ice gators are the best.  :whistle:

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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #18 on: Mar 08, 2013, 11:33 AM »
Nils comes in both 48" and standard 42" augers....My wifes 5' nothing and has no problem with my 48" ?Nils auger....

 I also have the 42in. Very nice. I also have a Mora 6in and 7in for the Tanaka. Those Mora's flat eat ice.
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Re: looking for some input on a new auger i need to buy this year.
« Reply #19 on: Mar 08, 2013, 05:08 PM »
I do belive Tanaks carry a 7 year warrenty to...Takes about that long just to get it properly broken in....

 

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