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Author Topic: Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)  (Read 2644 times)

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Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)
« on: Oct 16, 2012, 07:05 PM »
I started building a new ice shack last spring its 6X8. I built it out of ceder that I cut and sawed. I had it spray foamed by Arctic Sprayfoam Insulation. What great stuff. I know it will heat very easily but I do intend on sleeping in it at times. I have a buddie heater but I would not use it if I were asleep. Any ideas on a good heater?
This is the shack that I am working on




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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 16, 2012, 07:12 PM »
I have used my buddy heater many times in my tent while sleeping with out any problems at all.  I know some don't but I know of a few others who have too. Just as safe as a wood stove in my opinion.

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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 16, 2012, 08:41 PM »
if it has a CO alarm, or if you get one to use with it, I wouldn't be too nervous about it. You probably should add an adjustable vent somewhere fairly high to get a little air circulation. The only way I'm aware of to prevent CO issues would be to get something direct vented , like the old Empire wall heaters, that take fresh air and exhaust from outside. ;)
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 16, 2012, 08:45 PM »
I sleepn my permy wiht a Buddy heater. If I am not mistaken i think that buddys have a CO detecter built in and will shut down if the CO level gets to high, but I might be roung. I also have a on the wall CO detecter that is just like a smoke detecter and I just think of it as a cheap insurance to life.


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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 17, 2012, 04:28 AM »
Thanks, I over looked the CO detectors. And I do plan on installing two vents in the eves. I will post pics later its quite a shack.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #5 on: Oct 17, 2012, 04:38 AM »
I sleepn my permy wiht a Buddy heater. If I am not mistaken i think that buddys have a CO detecter built in and will shut down if the CO level gets to high, but I might be roung. I also have a on the wall CO detecter that is just like a smoke detecter and I just think of it as a cheap insurance to life.

Buddy heaters DO NOT have a CO detector in them; many, many threads on this to read. They have a low OXYGEN sensor, which will NOT save your life. High levels of CO will still build with the low oxy sensor. Don't sleep in there and trust your life to a Buddy Heater, too many people have and never woke up. Get a good CO detector and stay safe, my friend!!!!

                                   

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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #6 on: Oct 17, 2012, 08:37 AM »
Then what heater do you use to trust your life with? I am sorry on my info I new there was some kind of sensor built in them but could not quite remember which one. So Sorry again. And I do have a In home on the wall in my shack as well. Sorry Reb.


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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #7 on: Oct 17, 2012, 10:24 AM »
What are you sorry for??? Just wanted to point out to you not to trust your life to a heater, not getting on your case. I use Buddy heaters, too,  but I have a CO detector, too. Buddy heaters shut down with low oxy, they do NOT sound any type of alarm, as they have no type of "alarm"  built in, just a tip-over switch and a low oxy "shut-off" switch. A CO monitor does do an audible alarm. O and CO are measured by far different means; read up on it. As part of being a former Safety Instructor, and a licensed Advanced Emergency Care Instructor, I ran a Buddy heater with and without a CO detector in MY shack...after a friend and I became ill. It was due to high CO levels, yet the heater was still working. Have you ever had to pull a person out of a shack thats died due to CO poisoning??? I have, not a pretty sight, that cherry red skin, especially when it's a FRIEND. Just trying to keep ya safe, no need to jump on me about it! I see too many folks die from trusting a heater to shut off, two guys died in Mid-central Minnesota last year from trusting a heater. Fact.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #8 on: Oct 17, 2012, 10:54 AM »
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #9 on: Oct 17, 2012, 12:50 PM »
I started building a new ice shack last spring its 6X8. I built it out of ceder that I cut and sawed. I had it spray foamed by Arctic Sprayfoam Insulation. What great stuff. I know it will heat very easily but I do intend on sleeping in it at times. I have a buddie heater but I would not use it if I were asleep. Any ideas on a good heater?
A vent down low, a vent up high, a good CO Detector and go for it. I have an Empire Direct Vent heater in my wheelhouse, but I still depend on a CO detector and crack a window when I sleep in it.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #10 on: Oct 17, 2012, 09:07 PM »
Orbis sells a nice vented wall mount propane heater.  They are safe and very efficient, but are spendy.  I still use a Co detector for any leeks on fitting ext.  At -30 -to -40 I can get two full days on a 20lb tank running my heater, lights and cook stove all plumed into the same tank.  Good luck!
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #11 on: Oct 18, 2012, 04:59 AM »
Orbis sells a nice vented wall mount propane heater.  They are safe and very efficient, but are spendy.  I still use a Co detector for any leeks on fitting ext.  At -30 -to -40 I can get two full days on a 20lb tank running my heater, lights and cook stove all plumed into the same tank.  Good luck!
Thats what I had in mind too that or a alcohol heater.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 18, 2012, 06:37 AM »
Orbis sells a nice vented wall mount propane heater.  They are safe and very efficient, but are spendy.  I still use a Co detector for any leeks on fitting ext.  At -30 -to -40 I can get two full days on a 20lb tank running my heater, lights and cook stove all plumed into the same tank.  Good luck!
Just searched Orbis, apparently, no longer built, but still available in places. Several sites are marketing Eskabe as an alternative. the two I saw retailed @ $400 for 8MBU unit
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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #13 on: Oct 18, 2012, 08:45 AM »
Thats what I had in mind too that or a alcohol heater.

Alcohol works for me, even when it's warm out.  ;)

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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #14 on: Oct 18, 2012, 09:53 PM »
Just searched Orbis, apparently, no longer built, but still available in places. Several sites are marketing Eskabe as an alternative. the two I saw retailed @ $400 for 8MBU unit
Eskabe is pretty much the same heater.  I have the 7,000 BTU orbis and the 17,000 BTU Eskabe.  I had the orbis in my 8x12 hard side, but it took too long to heat up when it was cold.  I did spend a weekend at -55 with the orbis and stayed warm with help from Jimmy Beam.  The Eskabe, more than twice the size heats my hard side at the coldest temps and once the shack is warm it stays on low.  The orbis is now in my 4x8 and it works great.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)
« Reply #15 on: Oct 20, 2012, 04:05 PM »
to be honest with ya I would spend my money and buy a top quality sleeping bag and not use a heater, too many things can go wrong with a heater (co2, fire, etc). People camp outside all the time in the winter in tents and leantos I used to do it all the time when I was younger and stayed plenty warm without a heater!  :)
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Re: Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)
« Reply #16 on: Oct 20, 2012, 04:23 PM »
to be honest with ya I would spend my money and buy a top quality sleeping bag and not use a heater, too many things can go wrong with a heater (co2, fire, etc). People camp outside all the time in the winter in tents and leantos I used to do it all the time when I was younger and stayed plenty warm without a heater!  :)

I was thinking a similar thought.

I would get it toasty in there right before going to sleep, turn off the heater then light a 3 wick candle with a metal or glass globe type deal (so nothing can ignite), then crawl into a sleeping bag. A big ole candle SHOULD keep it warm enough till morning.
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Re: Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)
« Reply #17 on: Oct 20, 2012, 04:49 PM »
Fresh air,fresh air,fresh air.Your shack looks air tight,maybe I missed it,but you need a vent for fresh air.My brother and I were both victims of carbon monoxide,I got it worse and if it hadn't been for my dad recessatating me I would not have survived,so trust no heater,install a vent to move fresh air :pinch:

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Re: Heater for new ice shack?
« Reply #18 on: Oct 20, 2012, 05:14 PM »
Thats what I had in mind too that or a alcohol heater.
Alcohol just gives you a false sense of heat. Then after the first bottle you try to walk and fall down. I would stick with Mr. buddy and crack a window.  ;D
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Re: Heater for new ice shack? (pictures of shack)
« Reply #19 on: Oct 20, 2012, 07:37 PM »
Fresh air,fresh air,fresh air.Your shack looks air tight,maybe I missed it,but you need a vent for fresh air.My brother and I were both victims of carbon monoxide,I got it worse and if it hadn't been for my dad recessatating me I would not have survived,so trust no heater,install a vent to move fresh air :pinch:
i agree. i have 2 round alum. slated vents for good measure up near the ceiling. even on a windy day you lose very little heat. one on either side of the shack will do the trick. you need some doug w/ that sprayed on insulation because it makes your shack completely airtight. i wouldnt just trust your heater to turn off esp. if youre sleeping in there.
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