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Author Topic: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric  (Read 3729 times)

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #20 on: Oct 14, 2012, 08:09 PM »
The only thing i dont like about the Ion is the battery warranty of 1 year..
Kinda leaves me thinking that they dont trust them much longer than that.
I think 3 year warranty on them would have gone a LONG way to helping with sales.

Cant warrant a battery as you never know how many years it has been sitting on the stores shelves or in a warehouse somewhere.
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #21 on: Oct 15, 2012, 03:45 AM »
Toyota warranties its batteries for 10years, i believe the Honda Insight has a lifetime battery warranty..
Asking for 3 years isnt much, especially when they claim it can handle 800 full recharge cycles.
You would literally have to recharge it from dead to full every day for over 2 years to kill it in less than 3 years.
I dont know anyone that can ice fish all year..
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #22 on: Oct 15, 2012, 08:26 AM »
In a vehicle it is constantly being recharged.  The factory has no control over how you treat your batteries.  If they are fully charged soon after they are drained, they should last 3 years without any problem.    If you draw them down and let them sit in the cold for days..... well.... you're gonna have problems.
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #23 on: Oct 15, 2012, 11:01 AM »
Toyota warranties its batteries for 10years, i believe the Honda Insight has a lifetime battery warranty..
Asking for 3 years isnt much, especially when they claim it can handle 800 full recharge cycles.
You would literally have to recharge it from dead to full every day for over 2 years to kill it in less than 3 years.
I dont know anyone that can ice fish all year..

A car battery is about as far away from a lithium battery as you can get.

Car batteries throw a bunch of amps right away to start it, then get held at full charge throughout your driving. Then the next day it repeats. With a flasher type battery it gets used slowly for one day, charged for the next, then it may sit for 8 months at no charge. Or it could leave the factory charged and sit in a warehouse for 3-4 years before being sold.
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #24 on: Oct 15, 2012, 06:29 PM »
In the battery biz, there is a saying "Most Batteries are murdered!"

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #25 on: Oct 18, 2012, 08:47 AM »
I have the lectra lazer 7 inch. I usually get 12 to 14 holes in 18 to 20 inch ice on one battery. The good thing about the Strikemaster is it uses the same battery (25 to 30 bucks) as the Humminbird portable fishfinders that the wife and I use so if auger battery gets low...just switch out because the fishfinder doesnt need near the amperage to run. Only once did I have to switch both batteries out. we drilled a lot of holes that day trying to find some fish.
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #26 on: Oct 24, 2012, 07:32 PM »
Ice pants
I have used electric augers exclusively for years know. The uses of electric has many benefits and to you this ION answers some of them for you,  Not gas obviously. It is well balanced and easy to hold, This will help reduce strain on a lower back that may come from using some other augers.  Longevity,  Obviously since my using electric exclusively and having a background dealing with dc powered devices some things need to be considered.  Your run time is a direct relationship of voltage and amp hours.  Higher voltage with higher amperage spells longer run times.  , This is where some have fell short in the past. Gearing is next  with proper gearing you can drop weight and lower amperage while maintaining runtime. It all sounds a bit much but these are all big factors in this decision.  With all this stated the ION has fulfilled what many others have missed and has perfected what some succeeded with.  I hope I have answered your question properly.


I would like to purchase an electric auger this year and I would like to get in right the first time. I had my eye on the StrikeMaster for about a year now but I see all the hype for the Ion. If the Ion is all that it is claimed, the decision should be a no brainer. However I still that little voice in the back of my head that says stick with the tried and true product. I really don't want to wait a year to see how the Ion holds up. I have a bad shoulder and have decided on an electric as the way to go. What would you do? In reality I would like to find a big woman to drill my holes for me but that ain't happening!

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #27 on: Nov 02, 2012, 08:44 AM »
I don't have the first bit of experience with an electric auger, and I think I read everything here, but if someone else has already said this, I'm sorry for the repeat....

If the Electra takes a regular Lead Acid battery, and the concern is run time on a standard 9ah battery....  why not just buy a bigger battery right off the hop..  you can get lead acid batteries the same physical dimensions as the 9ah in all different Amp Hour ratings..

Why not just bump up to a 22AH battery..  same physical size, still 12v.  You've more than doubled your available battery usage, and you have a brand new spare 9AH battery for a good back up, or a new spare for your flasher or whatever...

Just my 0.2's

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #28 on: Nov 03, 2012, 07:29 PM »
The 12Volt 9ah battery weighs 6lbs 8ozs. The 12Volt 12ah battery weighs 8lbs 4ozs. Do the math.
12Volt 22ah battery would be in the 15lb range.

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #29 on: Nov 04, 2012, 06:39 AM »
Some of you guys are speaking as though lithium-ion technology is brand new and untested. I use (and sometimes slightly abuse) lithium-ion power tools in my work--the same tools I purchased three years ago. Other than replacing brushes on a drill motor, I have had zero problems.

The light weight of lithium batteries and motors is enough to prevent me from ever going back to older technology--although there are many other reasons.

If I had the extra cash to spend, I would stand in line to get an ION auger.

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #30 on: Nov 04, 2012, 06:48 AM »
Some of you guys are speaking as though lithium-ion technology is brand new and untested. I use (and sometimes slightly abuse) lithium-ion power tools in my work--the same tools I purchased three years ago. Other than replacing brushes on a drill motor, I have had zero problems.

The light weight of lithium batteries and motors is enough to prevent me from ever going back to older technology--although there are many other reasons.

If I had the extra cash to spend, I would stand in line to get an ION auger.

I agree with you on the batteries, I have a Makita Li-ion 1/4" impact driver that is 6 years old and the batteries are fine yet. I keep it in the unheated garage all winter too.


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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #31 on: Nov 14, 2012, 09:11 PM »
LOVE my StrikeMaster!!!

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #32 on: Nov 15, 2012, 11:36 AM »

If the Electra takes a regular Lead Acid battery, and the concern is run time on a standard 9ah battery....  why not just buy a bigger battery right off the hop..  you can get lead acid batteries the same physical dimensions as the 9ah in all different Amp Hour ratings..

Why not just bump up to a 22AH battery..  same physical size, still 12v.  You've more than doubled your available battery usage, and you have a brand new spare 9AH battery for a good back up, or a new spare for your flasher or whatever...

Just my 0.2's

That is not correct. The 9ah batteries are the same size as the 7 and 8. Once you get to 10ah the size changes. A 22ah is nearly twice the size of a 9ah and would not fit on the auger. I'm pretty sure a 10ah would not fit on the auger.

7, 8 and 9ah:
length: 5.94"
Width: 2.56"
Height: 3.72"

22ah
Length: 7.13"
Width: 3.03"
Height: 6.25"
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #33 on: Nov 16, 2013, 05:29 PM »
LOVE my StrikeMaster!!!

I agree, never once has my StrikeMaster fail me yet. Always charged and ready to punch holes. Our ice averages over 24" each season and it just keeps plugging away.
  

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #34 on: Nov 23, 2013, 09:18 AM »
yall are kinda forgetting he said in his post he has a bad shoulder so pull starting an auger may be out of the question for him.

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #35 on: Nov 23, 2013, 10:40 AM »
The only thing i dont like about the Ion is the battery warranty of 1 year..
Kinda leaves me thinking that they dont trust them much longer than that.
I think 3 year warranty on them would have gone a LONG way to helping with sales.
It's not the battery they don't trust - it's the user that abuses that battery.  Been using a lithium ion battery on my IceGator for two season, going on three and it's awesome.
All I can say to those that are afraid of the cost -- ya gotta pay to play.  ;)
I'm considering the ION auger because of the lower weight over the Gator.  Just don't know if the drop in weight will be enough to help my back problems.  1/2" drill might be the way for me to go.

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #36 on: Nov 24, 2013, 05:47 AM »
I am considering going to electric also. I am tired of all the problems with bad gas (ethanol) and the smell and hassles of mixing. I will never sell my old model 30 jiffy auger though, Just retire it. I am seriously looking to a nills with cordless drill to run it. So far it looks like rigid (lowes) has the best drill and a 3 year warrantee on battery. Bosch is second. I know I have to keep batteries warm. Also looking at 6" auger. Should get quite a few holes on 2 batteries. I  fished for years with a 6" hand auger and never had a problem getting fish through it. Maybe some other cordless motors out there that can be adapted too.  Steve

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #37 on: Nov 28, 2013, 07:02 PM »
How much does an ice gator weigh? I would take the lithium ion gator in a second. That thing rips.
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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #38 on: Nov 29, 2013, 03:11 AM »
How much does an ice gator weigh? I would take the lithium ion gator in a second. That thing rips.
Depends on the auger you mate with it. 
Some info in the thread for you.

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Re: Ion (New) vs StrikeMaster Electric
« Reply #39 on: Nov 29, 2013, 06:42 AM »
Thanks, I would still get one. ;D If I didn't buy my Tanaka . At 20 lbs ...
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