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Flasher vs graph
« on: Nov 13, 2011, 08:50 AM »
Does anyone make a graph unit for ice fishing? Almost everything is a flasher. so I figure there must be a problem with graphs on the ice. What's uyp with that?? Are the too expensive or what??
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #1 on: Nov 13, 2011, 08:53 AM »
I use an old Eagle Fish ID 2 and have no problems
It isn't fancy but it works great for me
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #2 on: Nov 13, 2011, 08:57 AM »
Lowrance x67c has graph and flasher mode. Its right up there with vex and marcum...do a little research.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #3 on: Nov 13, 2011, 09:05 AM »
Humminbird, Marcum, and Lowrance all have graph ice units available. Alot of people tend to shy away from them because they can get a little sluggish in sub zero temps. (-20 I believe) Marcums LX-7 and Showdown screens have a heating thingamajig built in though. Otherwise, if you fish in a heated shanty with any of the available graph units you shouldn't have a problem with the screens getting sluggish. Another thing is alot of the hardcore flasher people do not like the lag with the graphs and prefer the "realtime" display of the flashers. I own and use both  graph and flasher units for icefishing and haven't noticed much difference if any in how "fast" the signal is displayed. Its just a matter of what each person prefers to use.
                           

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #4 on: Nov 13, 2011, 09:26 AM »
Mushroom is right.  Its all preference.  the x-67 seems to work pretty well no matter how cold it gets.  I live in Manitoba Canada and it gets cold........

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #5 on: Nov 13, 2011, 09:51 AM »
I fish with a Hummin'bird graph (560) that I use in my boat during soft water. I do have the ice transducer for ice fishing, though. It works just fine, and I really don't see any lag time difference. When it is very cold out, I do turn on the internal screen lighting (on high) to keep the screen from getting sluggish. Most graph units made for the ice have an internal screen heater to keep them warmer on very cold days. My Marcum video has a screen heater also for sub zero days.

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #6 on: Nov 13, 2011, 10:14 AM »
I use an Lowrance HD5 which has both flasher and graph. I never use the flasher anymore once I got use to the side bar. I doesn't matter how cold it gets the response on almost all current flashers is immediate. When it gets to shallower water particularly where there is weeds a flasher may have a slight advantage. Graphs tend to interpret weed and debris differently in various depths. Once you get into 20+ ft. the problem seems to clear.

There is a new Lowrance Elite 4 coming out with a much brighter screen than the x67 which is being discontinued. It also comes with a GPS/Map loaded. The charts in Canada are Navionics and I believe it comes with the whole country installed. The price is about $400.00 including the ice kit which includes an ice ducer, battery and charger. It still only has a 3.5 inch screen but the brighter screen seems to make up the difference in size.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #7 on: Nov 13, 2011, 06:18 PM »
Cant miss w/ Humminbird or Lowarance
Went w/ Bird385 last winter - GPS worked great, easy to use in flasher & graph mode on ice.
Used it this summer & worked great on jon boat. Out this past week and marked
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #8 on: Nov 13, 2011, 06:51 PM »
The charts in Canada are Navionics and I believe it comes with the whole country installed.

Navionics doesn't have any mapping North of 60*.  :(
The only electronic map charting that is availble up here is on CMAP cartridges.   ::)
And even then it's very limited.

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #9 on: Nov 14, 2011, 06:04 AM »

When is this unit coming out?  Hopefully, before ice fishing season?  I see there is an Elite 5 Ice Machine, but at a much higher cost. I just purchased a Humminbird 345c ice, but the Elite 4 sounds like it might be a better unit.  So, they are discontinuing the x67c?




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I use an Lowrance HD5 which has both flasher and graph. I never use the flasher anymore once I got use to the side bar. I doesn't matter how cold it gets the response on almost all current flashers is immediate. When it gets to shallower water particularly where there is weeds a flasher may have a slight advantage. Graphs tend to interpret weed and debris differently in various depths. Once you get into 20+ ft. the problem seems to clear.

There is a new Lowrance Elite 4 coming out with a much brighter screen than the x67 which is being discontinued. It also comes with a GPS/Map loaded. The charts in Canada are Navionics and I believe it comes with the whole country installed. The price is about $400.00 including the ice kit which includes an ice ducer, battery and charger. It still only has a 3.5 inch screen but the brighter screen seems to make up the difference in size.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #10 on: Nov 16, 2011, 03:41 PM »
Humminbird, Marcum, and Lowrance all have graph ice units available. Alot of people tend to shy away from them because they can get a little sluggish in sub zero temps. (-20 I believe) Marcums LX-7 and Showdown screens have a heating thingamajig built in though. Otherwise, if you fish in a heated shanty with any of the available graph units you shouldn't have a problem with the screens getting sluggish. Another thing is alot of the hardcore flasher people do not like the lag with the graphs and prefer the "realtime" display of the flashers. I own and use both  graph and flasher units for icefishing and haven't noticed much difference if any in how "fast" the signal is displayed. Its just a matter of what each person prefers to use.
that isn't true they are at real time ,just as fast as the spinning wheels ,which i,have an fl 18 ,67c and an hd 5 , and my 113c and 28c on my boat are all in real time absolutely no lag
     

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #11 on: Nov 17, 2011, 08:46 AM »
all newer graphs (made in the last 10 or so years) will be real time.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #12 on: Nov 17, 2011, 01:07 PM »
I use the Humminbird 323 which does have real time and flasher view (same unit I use on the boat). I set it up in a portable base like the Pirahnamax. I switch back and forth between graph view and the flasher view. Just got done setting up the same ice fishing rig with a new 325 model for my wife. She is excited to try it out!
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #13 on: Nov 17, 2011, 03:52 PM »
I use the graph on my Lowrance x67c and love it.

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #14 on: Nov 17, 2011, 04:50 PM »
do the rest of you think the graph , think the memory is any help
     

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #15 on: Nov 22, 2011, 07:31 PM »
 I started the year last year with a Humminbird 345C. It was easy to read and really liked it untill I fished with my buddy who had a FL18 Vex. The target separation is where there is a big difference graph and flasher. The bird was 2.5" and my new FL22HD is 1/4".IMO this is a big deal when the fish are being picky. I always said I wouldn't buy a flasher. I thought they were to hard to read. But know with the different colors you can read it at a glance. I think it personal preference. Go to a sporting goods store that has flashers and graphs on display and talk to someone there thats knows the units and weigh the pros and cons on what is important to you. I also talked to Mike in the fishing dept. at Reeds before I bought my FL 22HD. He is a good source of info as he has ice fished with alot of these units.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #16 on: Nov 22, 2011, 08:17 PM »
Get an X67C and use it in graph mode, you'll wonder what all the hype about flashers is all about.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #17 on: Nov 22, 2011, 08:25 PM »
do the rest of you think the graph , think the memory is any help

I started with a cheapo eagle graph i rigged for the hardwater before i got my bird.  Right away i really missed the memory just because you could see the bottom change to know a fish was on the bottom because you could compare it to the "older" side.  You can still see it on the bird just hard to notice those small changes.
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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #18 on: Nov 23, 2011, 06:58 AM »
If you get used to using a graph with the RTS (real time sonar) bar on the right I think you get the best of both worlds. I have both an FL-18UP and a HB787c set up for ice fishing. The vexilar works great for what we use it for (lakers, walleyes and some perch) but the girlfriend decided she liked it two years ago. So I got the ice pack and xducer for the HB787, it's nice to have your maps and sonar in one unit too. I can walk with just a bucket and auger and have everything I need  ;).
                       

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Re: Flasher vs graph
« Reply #19 on: Nov 23, 2011, 08:48 AM »
do the rest of you think the graph , think the memory is any help

It can be yeah. For instance if you look away from your unit for a little bit while doing something, it can still tell you that there was a fish down there in the area.
                           

 

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