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iceman45
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jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:23 PM »
has anyone had this problem ? Once I start to drill a hole I get about half way and the auger stops on me ,but if I keep pushing in the primer and priming it it will stay running ? Looks like lack of fuel , but where and how
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Any thoughts?
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:31 PM »
its the carb, get a rebuild kit for a 3 hp tecuseh engine. The ethanol in fuel does this to carborated engines, its always good to run some stabil.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:32 PM »
I sometimes have that problem too. What fuel ratio are you running? I was advised to run a leaner ratio than it says on the sticker to help avoid this. I do see that when I get through a few holes it runs great, maybe it just needs more time to warm up, I'm at a loss here too.
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iceman45
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:36 PM »
Humm I may try a new carb , where could I buy one? I have not added gas stabilizer or messed around with the mix. This happened at the end of last year as well.
Thank you for the help guys
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:38 PM »
Have you tried adjusted your carb?
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Massfisher
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:39 PM »
try adjusting the high idle screw. that is if you take the worm off auger and it runs fine with no load on it
IF all else fails get a can of starting fluid and spray that in there as its running, that has solved the same problem 2 times on other equiptment for me.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:41 PM »
Happened to my Jifffy 2yrs ago pick up a carburator repair kit or find a small engine repair guy.Make sure you run it with premium gas with the propper mix ratio.GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!! My Jiffy 30 is 12yrs old 1or 2 pulls starts rite up.
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iceman45
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:41 PM »
yes last year I has some one take a look and sync the carb ,but it is an older model who knows it the carb is gone. Or maybe the gas line is gummy ? gurrrr!!!!
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iceman45
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:42 PM »
awesome! Thank you everyone
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yakk
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:45 PM »
this could be helpful , it was for me .
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=97739.msg955099#msg955099
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yakk
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:47 PM »
i also run amzoil 2 stroke-100-1 mix
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iceman45
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 05:48 PM »
great thank you yakk
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BogMan
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 06:11 PM »
I run stabil in everything gas operated. Summer and winter. Empty most of the gas out and put some Seafoam in it. Run some of this stuff through the system it will clean as it runs. Nappa has some in a metal can.
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fishlessman
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 06:47 PM »
sounds stupid but mine had paint in the carb. took mine apart and cleaned it out, write down the jet settings before taking it apart, count turns in til it stops then write thoe numbers down, then count them later working backwards
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pickled herring
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 06:52 PM »
Use the stabil blue ethanol treatment. you can use the regular red stabil, but it's the ethanol stuff ya want. rebuild the carb and use 93 octane gas with the ethanol treatment and you should be fine.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 06:56 PM »
The diaphragm in the bottom of the carb may need to be replaced. Did you store it wet or dry last season?
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IceLunker
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 07:01 PM »
Maybe a strange question but... This has happened to me when i first got it...
I've forgotten to release screw on the gas cap. It runs, then dies. Not sure how new
you are to this model.
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icefisher35
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 07:30 PM »
I received a jiffy 30 for free because it wouldn't run a carb rebuild kit a new gas cap (the one on it was bent) and a new primer button later runs great. also had to sharpen the blades. I went on jiffy's web site and found a local dealer for parts into it for under $30 and cant beat it. Good luck and have heard great things about the sea foam will be putting it in mine this year.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 09:36 PM »
I had the same problem as Icelunker. if the breather valve is not open on the gas cap the fuel won't get to the engine and it just dies from lack of fuel.
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mjcjr1
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 09, 2011, 10:40 PM »
Before you go messing w/ carb and carb adjustments...If it's got the vent screw on the gas cap open it one turn once its started should do the trick.
good luck,
mike c
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ice hole bill
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 05:33 AM »
funny only jiffys has this problem. Everyone I know with a jiffy has trouble with there carbs over and over again. Strikemaster and eskimo seem to have it right. Not sure why but that was the reason I bought a new strikemaster this year. Loven it
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iceman45
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 08:31 AM »
Yes I did check and the cap is vented
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flaggs
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 10:17 AM »
I believe these are Walbro Carbs.... Good Carbs but as New braintree said, at a minimum, take off the 4 screws on the bottom plate to the diaphram and check it out (blow through the line too while your there). Definately use Startron and Stabil in your mix to mitigate the ethenol issue.
Moving on: (with out a carb rebuild) remove you highspeed jet (carefully) and blow it out with compressor if you got one.
Moving on: rebuild the damn thing... there really is nothing to them..
Flaggs!
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 11:47 AM »
Quote from: newbraintree on Jan 09, 2011, 06:56 PM
The diaphragm in the bottom of the carb may need to be replaced.
Happened to me this year......tried firing it up last week. No gas getting to carb...air bubble in gas line. Can't pump gas to carb. Ordered carb kit today...$20.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 11:51 AM »
Most likely the diaphram...C&J supply in Tewksbury shold have one... or you can order one from partstree.com..
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 02:49 PM »
Use a jiffy spud. They dont break down lol. Anyway I own a Jiffy 3hp. 4 years old and it's a pain. I'm gonna sell it soon. Leaner oil mix works, but better to use higher octane fuel with almost 50 to one mix (more like 60-70 to one) as you want to keep the pistons lubed.
I agree with FLAGGS and a few others. If really bad, may need the kit. I believe the Tom's bait store/shiner warehouse in middleboro will have as they sell jiffy parts. (508) 947-8220 or (508) 947-9767.
Good luck.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 03:06 PM »
It does sound like you need a rebuild kit. the Stabil is a definite, but will not help you to fix this problem until its rebuilt. My neighbor, who repairs 2 and 4 stroke engines, suggests that a higher octane gas be used in these single cylinder engines. The ethanol in the lower octanes ruins the carbs.
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flaggs
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 10, 2011, 03:16 PM »
Ethanol / E10 fuels increase the amounts of water and sludge in your fuel tank.
Star Tron breaks down this excess water and sludge to sub-micron size allowing it to be safely burned away during normal engine operation. Therefore Star Tron prevents phase separation and fuel gelling, eliminating ethanol fuel problems.
It is the water content in the ethanol that is rasing havoc with 2 cycle engines with gas/oil mix.
Always use high octane in these little buggers!
Always use a pinch of StarTron enzyme additive with 2 cycle engines!
But like said, this is not the problem, but more a preventive maintenance approach once the carb is rebuilt! I do a ton of them for my buddies!
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 13, 2011, 03:35 AM »
The diaphragm will dry out if you run it completely dry of gas, but the carb will get clogged with gas that gets broken down. This year, I ran it dry before storing it versus last year when I did nothing except leave the gas that I had treated with Startron. Last year, i started right up. This year~ new diaphragm. I think that this spring, I am going to completely remove the carb and treat it with a little Mystery Oil and store it in the house instead of the basement.
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Re: jiffy ice auger repair model 30 3hp
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Jan 13, 2011, 08:31 AM »
Newbraintree....
That seems a bit extreme to me. What I would do is get a can of fogger and before storing it away, have Cam spray fogger into the carb air intake and run full throttle until it starts to smoke heavily. Shut 'er down and you will be good to go. (I use Mercruiser fogger) I use it in my 85hp outboard as well. on my outboard, I also pull the plugs and spray 5 seconds down each cylinder and crank it over a couple times. She starts first time everytime after the long winter storage. the fuel treatment you use covers the internals of the Carb ... no problems!
You're approach is certainly a good one, but like I said, it seems a bit over the top, but hay, whatever makes you comfortable!
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