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Author Topic: how shallow is too shallow?  (Read 6877 times)

chadroc

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how shallow is too shallow?
« on: Dec 27, 2009, 06:27 PM »
hey guys.  just wondering about opinions on how shallow to run baits for pike.  is 3ft too shallow?  also, in southern new england is there a general rule as to how the fish relate to lake depth through the season?  will fish seek out deeper water when the season wears on and the oxygen in a lake tends to drop a bit?

one last question.....does anyone read esox angler magazine and if so can they recommend a back issue which would have information related to depth and pike.  any literature pointers about this stuff would be appreciated.  thanks!
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 27, 2009, 07:48 PM »
Three feet of water is not to shallow at all. I go as low as 1 to 2 ft. I like the 0 to 30 range.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2009, 04:42 PM »
A friend of mine who teaches school out in Chevak, AK fishes a lake with 4 feet of ice and only six INCHES of space between the ice and the bottom. They head back to the village with their sleds heaped with big northerns so apparently the pike go wherever they have to for finding food - even in tight shallow spaces.
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 30, 2009, 04:20 PM »
I've caught the majority of my pike in the 10-3 fow range, typicaly when I fish in less than 5 fow it's off an island or over the top of a small hump or gravel bar with deep water nearby maybe a weed bed or 2 in the vicinity helps...

I've read that Pike will do one of 2 things when the O2 drops in the lake, it's either head to deeper water or  cruise closer to the ice.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 01, 2010, 11:07 AM »
thanks for the information guys.  you are appreciated.  have had very slow past 2 outings, using a mix of live and dead bait over 3 to 8ft of water.  putting in my time, yada yada yada.
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 04, 2010, 09:40 PM »
I usualy find most of my pike in 10fow or less but ive heard of people fishing them in much deeper water along shelves never tried it but seen some nice ones caught in deeper water so they can be anywhere from 1fow under ice up to who knows how deep

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 19, 2010, 01:28 PM »
Theres a guy that fishes with us that sets his traps in 18" of water and yes he catches Pike.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 19, 2010, 01:45 PM »
towards the end of last week a group of me and my friends went out to a lake that we always fish and didnt have a single flag in shallow water so the next day we went out into 20 fow and fished around 5 feet of the bottom and had flags most of the day the next day we tried the same spots with no luck so around noon we moved a few into shallow water 10 feet or less and hammered them so now we decided to set half shallow and half deep

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 19, 2010, 02:26 PM »
Late season if you have a foot of water under the ice you can get good fish.
It can be a bit of a pain to get them to turn the corner but I know a guy who catches lots of 20 pounders in real skinny water in March.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 19, 2010, 05:39 PM »
It depends on what time of the year shallow deep shallow rule.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 09, 2010, 11:51 AM »
4-5 feet is about as shallow as i go, and pike get caught at that depth too :tipup:
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 09, 2010, 11:56 AM »
i've caught my biggest pike in over 20 feet of water.
 

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 09, 2010, 03:48 PM »
I catch most of my pike in 3fow with my bait 12" under the ice.

 I know guys catch pike in 20+' but I never have. I always look for weedbeds for pike and those are usually up in the shallow water 10' or less.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 15, 2010, 04:39 PM »
I tend to fish in depths of 3-15 feet all season. My two biggest fish this year..a 17 lbr came in 2.5 feet of water...and a 21 lbr came in 3 feet. The 1st fish was early ice but the 21 came in late january. I like the shallow weed beds all winter.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 16, 2010, 06:23 AM »
theres no such thing as too shallow!  :tipup:

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #15 on: Mar 08, 2010, 07:39 PM »
I read in a magazine that fish use the ice to trap the bait they are eating.  To a point i think that could be very true, can see where if bait was running close to shore they could use where the lake bottom and the ice meet to make a dead end for the bait fish.  If you get what i mean, not sure if i explained it the best.  but if that was true, then very shallow water lines could work well. 

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #16 on: Mar 08, 2010, 10:06 PM »
I read in a magazine that fish use the ice to trap the bait they are eating.  To a point i think that could be very true, can see where if bait was running close to shore they could use where the lake bottom and the ice meet to make a dead end for the bait fish.  If you get what i mean, not sure if i explained it the best.  but if that was true, then very shallow water lines could work well. 

you are correct! that is what they do when they don't have anymore trout too eat! (see the state of maine there trout are going fast!) lol.
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #17 on: Dec 30, 2010, 12:03 AM »
the fish you see below were all caught in about 4'-6' , works for me!  :tipup:
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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #18 on: Jan 05, 2011, 03:22 PM »
I have never iced fished for pike but i am going to give it a shot the next time i am on the private lake i go to. I have talked to a few people about this lake and they get them at 3 to 5 fow with a large shinner.

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Re: how shallow is too shallow?
« Reply #19 on: Mar 06, 2011, 10:26 PM »
Re: how shallow is too shallow?

when you hit rocks with your auger ..

i myself have never had luck in anything less then about 5 f
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